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Old 05-21-2013, 04:26 AM
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I posted the correct headline but this thread is to get at the meat of this matter. This article happens to have good synopsis for us to look at. Please excuse the partisan jabs. I did not want to edit this portion of the article:

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The Fox case involved a report by Rosen in June 2009 that American intelligence officials had issued warnings that, should the United Nations adopt sanctions that were under consideration, North Korea would begin conducting new nuclear tests. According to the F.B.I. affidavit in the case, the information was top secret and was contained in an intelligence document disseminated to a small number of government officials that same morning. The report was marked top secret.
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At that point, the F.B.I. obtains subpoenas for the Yahoo! accounts of both Kim and Rosen. There, they find communications between the two of them in which they are using aliases—Kim is “Leo” and Rosen is “Alex.”
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So, here is the scenario: Kim is one of a few officials who sees classified information about possible nuclear tests by North Korea. He speaks to Rosen of Fox. And shortly thereafter, Fox runs the story about the classified information. The F.B.I. questions Kim and then comes to believe that he is deleting information from his computer. So, knowing already that Kim is in communication with Rosen, it subpoenas both Kim’s and Rosen’s e-mail accounts.
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One of the people who accessed the report that morning was Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, a man of Korean descent who is a naturalized citizen (just mentioning that to say, hmm . . . where are the G.O.P. conspiracy theories about that?) and a nuclear specialist who was detailed at the time to the State Department. Kim worked in the same building where Rosen maintained a desk in a section for reporters. According to the affidavit, between the time the intelligence analysis was issued and the report on Fox News, the electronic user identification and password for Kim were used to access the classified document three times. And Kim’s phone records show that he called Rosen several times that morning. Moreover, about the same time that Kim’s user profile was viewing the classified document, two calls were place from his desk phone to Rosen. From there, the F.B.I. obtained security-badge access records that the F.B.I. says shows the two men left the building at the same time; the affidavit suggests that this involved a meeting between the two men. Within an hour, Fox News made its report.
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An analysis of Kim’s desk and mobile phones showed dozens of calls between him and Rosen. During a September interview with the F.B.I., Kim told the agents that the best e-mail to use to reach him was a Yahoo! account. The next day, he called and said he was getting rid of the Yahoo! account and the F.B.I. should instead use a Google account he had set up. A forensic analysis of Kim’s hard drive, the affidavit says, found an e-mail from Rosen; the affidavit suggests that the e-mail had been deleted. Moreover, electronic records showed that after his interview with the F.B.I., Kim’s user profile accessed his Yahoo! account—which he told the F.B.I. he was getting rid of the next day—and viewed e-mails that had been sent from Rosen’s account.
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And here I thought it was just Obama being mad at FOX?
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It is not illegal for reporters to solicit or publish classified information. When the NYT exposed the NSA's overseas phone monitoring and the terrorist funds tracking programs under the Bush Administration it was celebrated as a triumph of investigative journalism, pass out the Pulitzers. But when the OA abuses their authority to "investigate" a reporter for a news organization President Obama has railed against since day 1 of his administration it is lauded as a defense of national security.
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Just because someone else has done it makes it no less wrong if done again. If classified material is realeased whoever did it should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and whoever publishes it should be shunned or something. Wrong is wrong.
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It is not illegal for reporters to solicit or publish classified information. When the NYT exposed the NSA's overseas phone monitoring and the terrorist funds tracking programs under the Bush Administration it was celebrated as a triumph of investigative journalism, pass out the Pulitzers. But when the OA abuses their authority to "investigate" a reporter for a news organization President Obama has railed against since day 1 of his administration it is lauded as a defense of national security.
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Just because someone else has done it makes it no less wrong if done again. If classified material is realeased whoever did it should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and whoever publishes it should be shunned or something. Wrong is wrong.
What your suggesting is an environment where the Federal government can mark everything as classified then dribble out only what they want the press to report. Unauthorized leakers, anyone talking to Fox News, gets prosecuted for crimes against the "public interest" and the reported gets investigated if not prosecuted.

Who needs a first amendment when we have President Obama.

Shunning? What are we in colonial Salem? Of course it should only apply to Fox news, right.

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What your suggesting is an environment where the Federal government can mark everything as classified then dribble out only what they want the press to report. Unauthorized leakers, anyone talking to Fox News, gets prosecuted for crimes against the "public interest" and the reported gets investigated if not prosecuted.

Who needs a first amendment when we have President Obama.
What you are claiming is preposterous given the facts. Did you miss the part that says "top secret"?
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What you are claiming is preposterous given the facts. Did you miss the part that says "top secret"?
two words for you salty....pentagon papers.
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If it is classified yes, you should be prosecuted. Did you think the same way about Bradley and Assange? And no, I dont mean Salem and no I dont mean just Fox. If a news organization intentionlly leaked national secrets I would think a great American, like yourself, would avoid that news organization from then on. I think you are soooo partisan you cannot tell right from wrong anymore, on any level.
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What your suggesting is an environment where the Federal government can mark everything as classified then dribble out only what they want the press to report. Unauthorized leakers, anyone talking to Fox News, gets prosecuted for crimes against the "public interest" and the reported gets investigated if not prosecuted.

Who needs a first amendment when we have President Obama.

Shunning? What are we in colonial Salem? Of course it should only apply to Fox news, right.
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If it is classified yes, you should be prosecuted.
Justice Department’s scrutiny of Fox News reporter James Rosen in leak case draws fire

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No reporter has ever been prosecuted for seeking classified information.
The whole idea behind investigative journalism is that reporters don't sit on their a$$ and report JUST what the government wants them to...

They did that in Commie Russia...
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Justice Department’s scrutiny of Fox News reporter James Rosen in leak case draws fire

The whole idea behind investigative journalism is that reporters don't sit on their a$$ and report JUST what the government wants them to...

They did that in Commie Russia...
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