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Old 05-17-2008, 12:54 AM
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Remember the Duke rape case where the prostitute was found to have lied through her 4 remaining teeth and the prosecutor helped maintain the myth and the media ran with the "Let's automatically consider rich, white kids guilty" angle?...

NC Central just gave her a degree...

Think that's bad?..The degree is for police psychology...

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It seems anyone can get a college degree these days-especially if they go to North Carolina Central University.

Standards of integrity there have long been dismal: This is, after all, the school that gave violent felon Solomon Burnette a diploma in 2007. Burnette, you may recall, robbed two Duke students at gunpoint in 1997.

After finishing a 13-month prison sentence, he had the audacity not only to enroll in Arabic classes on our campus in April 2007; Burnette also penned a column I and many others interpreted as inciting physical violence against white Dukies in his student newspaper.

Unfortunately, however, 2008 marks a new low... even for NCCU.

Just this month, the university graduated Crystal Mangum, the drug-addled, mentally unstable prostitute who falsely accused three lacrosse players of raping her two years ago.

Mangum is an accomplished liar and criminal, and a credible school shouldn't have allowed her within 50 miles of its graduation ceremony.

Indeed, this is a woman who has maintained for more than two years that 20, five, and finally three Duke lacrosse players violated her orally, vaginally and anally in a bathroom the size of a broom closet. In her final version of the "assault," Mangum claimed this was possible because she was magically suspended in midair (by hooks and pulleys, perhaps?) as the three men attacked her.

In reality, Mangum-who arrived at the lacrosse players' party so drunk and high she could barely stand-may have feared another psychiatric commitment the morning of March 14, 2006, and so she accused three men of rape to garner sympathy.

As an aside, if anyone at NCCU still believes her story, I would invite them to review court records indicating Mangum had DNA from two unidentified men in her rectum; two more in her pubic region; one man in her vagina; and four to five men on her panties-none of whom were lacrosse players (a physical impossibility because Mangum said her attackers wore no condoms during the "rape").

And although her bold-faced lies ruined three young men's lives, they were a jackpot for Mangum: Within days, she was already using the "assault" to hustle pain meds from emergency room doctors, claiming "excruciating pain from the... beating." Sensing a lucrative civil settlement on the horizon, Mangum even bragged to a security guard at her strip club that she was "going to get paid by the white boys."

Unsurprisingly, those actions constitute flagrant violations of NCCU's honor code, which prohibits: "lewd, indecent or obscene conduct (whether public or private)"; "violation of the alcohol policy, including binge drinking, use or personal possession of alcoholic beverages by undergraduate students;" and the real doozie, "knowingly making in public a false [oral or] written or printed statement with the intent to deceive and/or mislead or injure the character or reputation of another."

NCCU also touts itself as a "drug-free academic community," a claim that's hard to take seriously when one of the college's own students admits to turning tricks and getting high four or five nights per week. In fact, Mangum had overdosed on flexeril and booze when she was first picked up by police the night of March 14.

And that's what makes Mangum's latest milestone so infuriating: It demeans the accomplishments of thousands of hard-working, law-abiding Eagles who also graduated this May.
Who said it's hard to get an education?...
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Old 05-17-2008, 12:59 AM
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Sometimes a mind SHOULD be a terrible thing to waste
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Remember the Duke rape case where the prostitute was found to have lied through her 4 remaining teeth and the prosecutor helped maintain the myth and the media ran with the "Let's automatically consider rich, white kids guilty" angle?...

NC Central just gave her a degree...

Think that's bad?..The degree is for police psychology...

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Who said it's hard to get an education?...
My understanding is that this girl was never convicted of anything, not even filing a false police report in alleging the rape. If that is correct, then I don't see that the school would have a leg to stand on in not allowing her to graduate.

Anyone can scream rape (particularly a bipolar escort high on alcohol and drugs), but it takes an overzealous, lying prosecutor to actually take it to trial (which was why DA Nifong was disbarred). This commentary seems extremely hateful, IMO.
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Next she'll run for political office.
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My understanding is that this girl was never convicted of anything, not even filing a false police report in alleging the rape.
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Unsurprisingly, those actions constitute flagrant violations of NCCU's honor code, which prohibits: "lewd, indecent or obscene conduct (whether public or private)"; "violation of the alcohol policy, including binge drinking, use or personal possession of alcoholic beverages by undergraduate students;" and the real doozie, "knowingly making in public a false [oral or] written or printed statement with the intent to deceive and/or mislead or injure the character or reputation of another."

NCCU also touts itself as a "drug-free academic community," a claim that's hard to take seriously when one of the college's own students admits to turning tricks and getting high four or five nights per week. In fact, Mangum had overdosed on flexeril and booze when she was first picked up by police the night of March 14.
It says nothing about being convicted of something...

Breaking a policy is different from breaking a law ...

The fact that she was an ADMITTED prostitute violates NCC's policies...and that's not even counting the booze, drugs, and lying to injure another's character...
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It says nothing about being convicted of something...

Breaking a policy is different from breaking a law ...

The fact that she was an ADMITTED prostitute violates NCC's policies...and that's not even counting the booze, drugs, and lying to injure another's character...
She was an escort... it is the author of the article that classifies that as a prostitute (though I do not doubt she likely slept with her clients). If they wanted to get her on the booze and the drugs, she could easily point at any frat house on campus, where they likely drink til they drop. On the lying, she could easily say that she was never brought up on charges of filing a fake report. The judge put the blame squarely on the DA's shoulders, and the university just followed suit.

I am not defending this woman, I actually thought there was something very fishy about this story as soon as it broke, it did not seem to mesh for me. I am just appalled at the aggressiveness of the commentary.
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LooooooL and we except our children to lean in some of these colleges. lol

I agree with whom ever said all honoray degrees belittle those who have worked so long and hard for the real degrees.

Scratch another college off the list anyone should attend.
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Next she'll run for political office.
And win. lol
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It says nothing about being convicted of something...

Breaking a policy is different from breaking a law ...

The fact that she was an ADMITTED prostitute violates NCC's policies...and that's not even counting the booze, drugs, and lying to injure another's character...
Just wanted to repeat it.
You don't need a legal ruling to expel somebody.


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I am not defending this woman, I actually thought there was something very fishy about this story as soon as it broke, it did not seem to mesh for me. I am just appalled at the aggressiveness of the commentary.
Quite frankly, accusing somebody of a rape they never committed is an aggressive move.
I think expulsion would have been adequate.
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Just wanted to repeat it.
You don't need a legal ruling to expel somebody.



Quite frankly, accusing somebody of a rape they never committed is an aggressive move.
I think expulsion would have been adequate.
I would have thought that would be the result after it all died down. I guess logic vs. the $ got bent.
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