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Old 02-03-2013, 07:26 AM
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My opinion of what I see here on the internet and what is reality. I see the right repeat things that are not rue yet get repeated as fact.

Obama is a a big spender.

Obama is weak on defense

Obama is no friend of Israel

Obama wants your guns

Obama is a socialist

Obama “went around the world and apologized for America

Taxes are skyrocketing under Obama

Obama greatly expanded the size of the government

Obama does’t understand America

Obama’s spending has resulted in a huge budget deficit

Barack Obama is a Muslim.

Barack Obama was born in Kenya.


This is just a short list of some of the BS that I would imagine still is high in the polls if you polled the right. It's all been shot down by now but why do they persist to push the BS? Maybe because they have not much to trash the guy on.

Every president since Nixon had more liberal positions and have passed more liberal legislation than Obama has. Every POTUS since Nixon has had real scandals that would bury Obama in this environment. I mean think of the lists of failures of those Presidents and attach them to Obama and they would be the worst things that have ever happened.

Iran Contra

Watergate

Monica Lewinsky

Bush administration payment of columnists

Valerie Plame affair

NSA warrantless surveillance

Dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy


Again, I could go on and on but we see no such scandals in this White House to the chagrin of the critics so they simply make things up and it enters the right wing process of repeat the lie. Viola!
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Again, I could go on and on but we see no such scandals in this White House to the chagrin of the critics so they simply make things up and it enters the right wing process of repeat the lie. Viola!
Right?
It would almost be better if Obama had an affair or something, just to give them something tangible to grasp on to. They can't seem to accept that he's actually what he appears- an ethical, decent man. The more ethical and decent he acts, the more they're convinced that it's a facade, and that something sinister is going on behind the scenes.
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It would almost be better if Obama had an affair or something, just to give them something tangible to grasp on to. They can't seem to accept that he's actually what he appears- an ethical, decent man. The more ethical and decent he acts, the more they're convinced that it's a facade, and that something sinister is going on behind the scenes.
Ethical?? Throughout the whole "birfer" episode, the WH had EXACTLY what was being asked for and would not release it. Their reason for not doing so "It made for good TV and good politics." (a quote from the WH spokesman). That is NOT what I would consider an ethical action. When it comes to ethics, we defined by our failings, not our successes.
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Ethical?? Throughout the whole "birfer" episode, the WH had EXACTLY what was being asked for and would not release it. Their reason for not doing so "It made for good TV and good politics." (a quote from the WH spokesman). That is NOT what I would consider an ethical action. When it comes to ethics, we defined by our failings, not our successes.
Obama is the elected president of the united states.
His position as leader of our country was never under any serious or credible threat.
He is under no obligation to respond to nonsensical allegations from half-witted racist fools.
In my opinion, he lowers himself by responding in any way or even acknowledging them at all, and I wish he never had.
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Obama is the elected president of the united states.
His position as leader of our country was never under any serious or credible threat.
He is under no obligation to respond to nonsensical allegations from half-witted racist fools.
In my opinion, he lowers himself by responding in any way or even acknowledging them at all, and I wish he never had.
If that had been the reason given by the official WH spokesman, that would be one thing, but it wasn't. The OFFICIAL WH statement was that the records weren't released because "It made for good politics and good TV." The reason you offered was not part of the explanation for why the records weren't released.
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"It made for good politics and good TV."
Yeah, that's a polite way of saying, "Because you retarded racists fvcking suck, and we're not under any obligation to acknowledge your bullsh!t, but here: since we're nice, we'll toss you a bone."
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Obama is the elected president of the united states.
His position as leader of our country was never under any serious or credible threat.
He is under no obligation to respond to nonsensical allegations from half-witted racist fools.
In my opinion, he lowers himself by responding in any way or even acknowledging them at all, and I wish he never had.
Ummm...

The very first time his campaign was asked to provide the actual document was BY REPORTERS...

That very first time, his campaign REJECTED...

That's what created the whole "movement"...Obama's original declining of THE REPORTERS' request...

From June, 2008...

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Having done some Obama-rumor debunking that got praise from Daily Kos (a sign of the apocalypse, no doubt), perhaps the Obama campaign could return the favor and help debunk a bunch of others with a simple step: Could they release a copy of his birth certificate?

Reporters have asked for it and been denied, and the state of Hawaii does not make such records public.

The campaign cited the birth certificate in their “Fact Check” on William Ayers, so presumably, someone in the campaign has access to it.

(Apparently the lack of birth certificate, which would state the time of birth on August 4, is driving the astrologers nuts, as they need his birth time to calculate… whatever it is they calculate.)
All Obama had to do was show it from the start it would've knocked down 99% of any conspiracy crap...

But INSTEAD, he tagged everyone along...which will ALWAYS raise questions...

The "birther" movement was of Obama's own doing...and he let it continue because it was politically convenient...
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Ethical?? Throughout the whole "birfer" episode, the WH had EXACTLY what was being asked for and would not release it. Their reason for not doing so "It made for good TV and good politics." (a quote from the WH spokesman). That is NOT what I would consider an ethical action. When it comes to ethics, we defined by our failings, not our successes.
So you find not submitting to a right wing witch hunt a ethical lapse? Seriously?
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Ummm...

The very first time his campaign was asked to provide the actual document was BY REPORTERS...

That very first time, his campaign REJECTED...

That's what created the whole "movement"...Obama's original declining of THE REPORTERS' request...

From June, 2008...

All Obama had to do was show it from the start it would've knocked down 99% of any conspiracy crap...
But INSTEAD, he tagged everyone along...which will ALWAYS raise questions...

The "birther" movement was of Obama's own doing...and he let it continue because it was politically convenient...
You don't reward azzholess That is not an ethical lapse. That was the exact right thing to do.
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So you find not submitting to a right wing witch hunt a ethical lapse? Seriously?
Nope and that's not even close to what I said.

I said that the reason the WH gave for not releasing the records was because it "Made for good politics and good TV." They never said anything about what you're talking about, they said that they intentionally withheld that information for POLITICAL REASONS. It's not about the dumbass birfers, it's about th eunethical manner in which the WH responded to the birfers. They had every opportunity to simply shut them up, but chose to allow them to continue thier stupidity in order to score political points. This isn't something that I'm assuming, it's what the official WH spokesman said.
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