Originally Posted by Spencer Collins

I am aware of McCain's background,I was making a distinction between mere intelligence and being brilliant. I do not see McCain as brilliant. While I do respect his service,I still see him as a RINO.

I do not see Obama as a DINO..let's look at his background..."In late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year,[39] and president of the journal in his second year.[33][40] During his summers, he returned to Chicago, where he worked as an associate at the law firms of Sidley Austin in 1989 and Hopkins & Sutter in 1990.[41] After graduating with a J.D. magna cum laude[42] from Harvard in 1991, he returned to Chicago.[39] Obama's election as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review gained national media attention[33][40] and led to a publishing contract and advance for a book about race relations"

McCain's early support of amnesty and then running away from it was a big blunder or not very intelligent. Another ignorant move he made was to "Suspend his campaign" in the middle of an election and run to DC to save the nation as if his presence was crucial. He did that to attract attention in the spotlight and it was stupid. That move and others may have cost him the presidency and opened the door wider for Obama.

Not that it matters much at this point in time,it's highly probable that Obama could beat McCain in an IQ test by a wider margin than he beat him in the 08' election...but that's just an opinion..

Originally Posted by AZRWinger

So now the parameters change to McCain isn't "brilliant" therefore he isn't as intelligent as Obama. Obama's election as the first BLACK editor of the Harvard law review isn't a proxy for intelligence. A review of his scholarly works would be a better indicator, oh wait.

Originally Posted by AZRWinger

How many dummies are carrier pilots? None. How much intelligence does it take to build a bipartisan coalition for legislation compared to dictating nonegotiable demands the walking away to recite speeches from a teleprompter?

Originally Posted by AZRWinger

I agree Obama would score higher than McCain on an IQ test if his score were culturally adjusted. It is the same adjustment of standards to proclaim Obama possessing superior intellect.

Originally Posted by Spencer Collins

Yes wait..Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude,I would say that's a sign of above average intellect. I have not changed the parameters,I continue to believe that Obama is more intelligent scholastically than McCain. To imply that Harvard simply "gave" him his degree and he graduated Magna Cum Laude because his professors didn't want to face the condemnation of the faculty for being racist by giving him less than an A is ludicrous! If that were true all black students at Harvard would graduate at minimum with a Magna Cum Laude or face condemnation from the faculty! One simply doesn't need to have a review of his scholarly works,one only needs verification from Harvard itself that Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude. I'm sure that they would indeed verify this much to the skeptic.



I never said that McCain was a "dummy" so I will let you take credit for that question.



Some people wrongfully believe that all black students would do poorly if their scores were not culturally adjusted. I find that attitude very telling and inaccurate. I'm sure that there are exceptions but we may have to agree to disagree because Harvard fears Obama and all of their black students graduate at minimum with a Magna Cum Laude due to said fears from the faculty..

Fortunately for your position,McCain and Obama will never have to face off and submit to an IQ test. I think Obama would win but that's just my opinion. That said...intelligence alone does not guarantee good leadership from either of these two gentleman. I've already voted in this year's election and no...I didn't vote for Obama. When I am disappointed in a candidate,I do not double down and vote him in for another term for the sake of a political party. When you are not a "partisan"..you tend to see things from a different prospective.

Originally Posted by AZRWinger

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Obama wasn't just another black student at Harvard, he was the first black to be elected editor and was a black political activist on campus. If someone graduates with high honors there ought to be some evidence of them being an outstanding student. In Obama's case there is none. Obama is a guy who has had high honors awarded to him like the Nobel Peace Prize and high office based on the prospect of the great things his intelligence would allow him to do, accomplishments and experience were not necessary.

There is no evidence to support the notion of Obama's supposedly superior intelligence.