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I'm not all that sure what a Quagmire is but it seems you are questioning the promiscuity of anyone gay or straight and I think that' a good thing.

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"I swear- by my life and my love of it- that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine"- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the democrats believe every day is April 15. ~ Ronald Reagan

Quagmire is a character on the show Family Guy who is basically sex-crazed.

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Yep, kind of a nuts guy for sure, google search. Are you saying gay guys are like that? I kind of see them as the queens of the group, the I'm gay and will do whatever I want crowd. I do think if the relationships were more serious it would help the cause.

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"I swear- by my life and my love of it- that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine"- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the democrats believe every day is April 15. ~ Ronald Reagan

I'm saying there are a lot of gay guys like that. Not all of them, but a large enough of a percentage that it shouldn't be overlooked. Certainly a higher percentage than their straight counterparts. I certainly don't know of straight equivalents to gay bathhouses--they may exist but they're rare, while bathhouses are very common in big cities.

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Seriously, you are a very articulate speaker. I enjoyed your video.

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"Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace." ~Siddhartha Gautama (The Buddha)

If they do exist for straight people I never found one. I don't think they do exist other than in the imaginations of Quagmires who wish they did.

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"I swear- by my life and my love of it- that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine"- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the democrats believe every day is April 15. ~ Ronald Reagan

I'm calling bullsh*t.

Before I get into my argument, let me preface that I'm certainly not pro promiscuity. I'm a one man guy type of guy myself. HOWEVER...

1. The assertion that promiscuity is somehow more prevalent in the gay community than the straight community is laughable. Straight men, generally speaking, are just as promiscuous as gay men. Especially in their youth. And the increasing promiscuity of straight women puts the whole outdated paradigm on a logical precipice.

2. The argument (not yet made but insinuated) that bathhouses are somehow an example of outpaced gay promiscuity is also void. Sex clubs exist all over America for straight people and are growing in popularity. Ergo, this perceived gap is closing.

3. EVEN IF you buy that the gay community is more promiscuous than the straight community, it can be directly attributed to the lack of legal equality. Heterosexuals (and homosexuals alike) have been raised to find someone to love, get married, and start a family. UNLIKE homosexuals, heterosexuals are often forced into monogamy via societal pressures. And through that pressure, enter into a contractual relationship that is a pain in the ass to dissolve. When homosexuals start getting the same expectations, you would see their numbers change as well.

4. And finally EVEN IF you buy that marriage is not a solution to promiscuity, the problem is not with the individuals engaging in the behavior, it's with society and their treatment (or lack there of) of homosexuals. When you isolate people, socially and legally, you create minority behavior that is different than the "norm" and encourage it to grow.

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The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so.

-- Hitler, April 11 1942

What? Not being able to marry forces people to be promiscuous? I don't buy that for a moment. There's nothing stopping people from being in lasting relationships. I'm not saying people shouldn't be able to get married, I'm just saying that using that to excuse promiscuity just right, in my opinion.
So, gay people are more promiscuous because society expects them to be? ? ?
Right, so gay people are more promiscuous because society makes them that way? ?A few gay people that I know (as well as a whole subculture) want to be separated from the rules of society, they don't want to integrate into society, they resent the idea of the expectations of starting families and would still act like Quagmire even if they got married, they'd call it an "open marriage"--and if I told any of them that their sex-with-everyone-with-a-dick behavior could lead to STDs, they would declare me as anti-gay or tell me it's none of my business--which it isn't really, it ISN'T any of my business, so I say nothing--but I guess neither would watching someone deal with a meth habit or something else dangerous.

Sometimes it's hard, especially when I've involved myself in subcultures that view things that way. They're caring, open people that I care dearly about but I just don't get their whole multiple-people sex thing they view as so spiritual. Sorry, I'm rambling....

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Either way you look at it though--we can make fun of straight people who are severely promiscuous and not be called terrible names for it, but doing it to a gay person results in all sorts of horrible names.

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