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Just read the Washington Post article about the stimulus package passed when he first came into office - all his promises unfulfilled, and the fact that two of America's most respected journalists just labeled him a failure as President, IN the Washington Post. When the Post or N.Y. Times calls you out, we are not talking about The Star or National Enquirer here. That's heavy weight thunder coming down on your head. It's on the board - just go ahead and read it, I love the way they dismiss the $300 million plus lost with that California company as ONLY 1% of the total stimulus package, like it is ok. Lets see, $300 million? Could pay off a whole lot of school loans; buy a lot of seniors prescription medicine; pay for a few organ transplants; build a few homeless shelters - in America, not Africa; fund the VA; pay off a lot of cash for clunkers - post 1984 models - hire some more FBI agents, build a few HOV lanes, but, it's only 1%, so forget about it, ya win some, ya lose some, problem is, Obama loses with everything he touches.
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A million here, a million there, a million dumped into some pork project, ya know, sooner or later, it adds up to real money, not the Monopoly money the President thinks the U.S. dollar(s) is. Gawd you are such a predictable animal - posting within seconds whenever someone happens to add to the thread.
Like I figured, you can't show any substantial evidence of any failed policy. All you do is bring out the lame old right wing talking points concerning the Stimulus bill while ignoring the shape of the economy at the time . Do you really think McCain would have sat by and watched the economy crash as he was walking in the doors?.. I doubt it, but then again you do seem to Hold President Obama to a higher standard.

For your information the stimulus DID work, as much as it could. President Obama initially wanted more money up front but knew the futility of going any higher. He also underestimated the damage that was done and came up short of what was needed for a better recovery. The Stimulus he did get passed stopped the flow of blood and put us on a solid floor . Recovery has been slower than it could have been but When one side refuses to do their job and uses their power to block any legislation it's really a wonder we are doing so well now.

Here's your stimulus in a nutshell... Go ahead and ignore it like you do everything else, but you can't say we didn't try to educate you on the facts...

[B]Section 3 of ARRA listed the basic intent behind crafting the proposal. This Statement of Purpose included the following:

To preserve and create jobs and promote economic recovery.
To assist those most impacted by the recession.
To provide investments needed to increase economic efficiency by spurring technological advances in science and health.
To invest in transportation, environmental protection, and other infrastructure that will provide long-term economic benefits.
To stabilize State and local government budgets, in order to minimize and avoid reductions in essential services and counterproductive state and local tax increases.

The Act specifies that 37% of the package is to be devoted to tax incentives equaling $288 billion and $144 billion or 18% is allocated to state and local fiscal relief (more than 90% of the state aid is going to Medicaid and education). The remaining 45% or $357 billion is allocated to federal spending programs such as transportation, communication, waste water and sewer infrastructure improvements; energy efficiency upgrades in private and federal buildings; extension of federal unemployment benefits; and scientific research programs.

The following are details to the different parts of the final bill:
Tax incentives

Total: $288 billion
Tax incentives for individuals

Total: $237 billion

$116 billion: New payroll tax credit of $400 per worker and $800 per couple in 2009 and 2010. Phaseout begins at $75,000 for individuals and $150,000 for joint filers.
$70 billion: Alternative minimum tax: a one-year increase in AMT floor to $70,950 for joint filers for 2009.
$15 billion: Expansion of child tax credit: A $1,000 credit to more families (even those that do not make enough money to pay income taxes).
$14 billion: Expanded college credit to provide a $2,500 expanded tax credit for college tuition and related expenses for 2009 and 2010. The credit is phased out for couples making more than $160,000.
$6.6 billion: Homebuyer credit: $8,000 refundable credit for all homes bought between 1/1/2009 and 12/1/2009 and repayment provision repealed for homes purchased in 2009 and held more than three years. This only applies to first-time homebuyers.
$4.7 billion: Excluding from taxation the first $2,400 a person receives in unemployment compensation benefits in 2009.
$4.7 billion: Expanded earned income tax credit to increase the earned income tax credit — which provides money to low income workers – for families with at least three children.
$4.3 billion: Home energy credit to provide an expanded credit to homeowners who make their homes more energy-efficient in 2009 and 2010. Homeowners could recoup 30 percent of the cost up to $1,500 of numerous projects, such as installing energy-efficient windows, doors, furnaces and air conditioners.
$1.7 billion: for deduction of sales tax from car purchases, not interest payments phased out for incomes above $250,000.

Tax incentives for companies

Total: $51 billion

$15 billion: Allowing companies to use current losses to offset profits made in the previous five years, instead of two, making them eligible for tax refunds.
$13 billion: to extend tax credits for renewable energy production (until 2014).
$11 billion: Government contractors: Repeal a law that takes effect in 2012, requiring government agencies to withhold three percent of payments to contractors to help ensure they pay their tax bills. Repealing the law would cost $11 billion over 10 years, in part because the government could not earn interest by holding the money throughout the year.
$7 billion: Repeal bank credit: Repeal a Treasury provision that allowed firms that buy money-losing banks to use more of the losses as tax credits to offset the profits of the merged banks for tax purposes. The change would increase taxes on the merged banks by $7 billion over 10 years.
$5 billion: Bonus depreciation which extends a provision allowing businesses buying equipment such as computers to speed up its depreciation through 2009.

Healthcare
More than 11% of the total bill is allocated to help states with Medicaid

ARRA included the enactment of the Health Information Technology for Economic and Clinical Health Act, also known as the HITECH Act.

Total health care spending: $155.1 billion

$86.8 billion for Medicaid
$25.8 billion for health information technology investments and incentive payments
$25.1 billion to provide a 65 percent subsidy of health care insurance premiums for the unemployed under the COBRA program
$10 billion for health research and construction of National Institutes of Health facilities
$2 billion for Community Health Centers
$1.3 billion for construction of military hospitals (military)
$1.1 billion to study the comparative effectiveness of healthcare treatments
$1 billion for prevention and wellness
$1 billion for the Veterans Health Administration
$500 million for healthcare services on Indian reservations
$300 million to train healthcare workers in the National Health Service Corps
$202 million for a temporary moratorium for certain medicare regulations
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Education
Secretary of Education Arne Duncan and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg visit with students at Explore Charter School.

Total: $100 billion

$53.6 billion in aid to local school districts to prevent layoffs and cutbacks, with flexibility to use the funds for school modernization and repair (State Fiscal Stabilization Fund)[43]
$15.6 billion to increase Pell Grants from $4,731 to $5,350
$13 billion for low-income public schoolchildren
$12.2 billion for IDEA special education
$2.1 billion for Head Start
$2 billion for childcare services
$650 million for educational technology
$300 million for increased teacher salaries
$250 million for states to analyze student performance
$200 million to support working college students
$70 million for the education of homeless children

Aid to low income workers, unemployed and retirees (including job training)
Payments to Social Security recipients and people on Supplemental Security Income were parts of the ARRA.

Total: $82.2 billion

$40 billion to provide extended unemployment benefits through Dec 31, and increase them by $25 a week
$19.9 billion for the Food Stamp Program
$14.2 billion to give one-time $250 payments to Social Security recipients, people on Supplemental Security Income, and veterans receiving disability and pensions.
$3.45 billion for job training
$3.2 billion in temporary welfare payments (TANF and WIC)
$500 million for vocational training for the disabled
$400 million for employment services
$120 million for subsidized community service jobs for older Americans
$150 million to help refill food banks
$100 million for meals programs for seniors, such as Meals on Wheels
$100 million for free school lunch programs

Infrastructure Investment

Total: $105.3 billion
Transportation
Road and highway construction is the biggest single line infrastructure item in the final bill. Projects funded by the ARRA have a sign marking them, like this one in Middletown, Rhode Island.
Sign for an ARRA funded road-widening project on Colorado State Highway 9 north of Breckenridge, Colorado.

Total: $48.1 billion, some in the form of Transportation Income Generating Economic Recovery (TIGER) Grants

$27.5 billion for highway and bridge construction projects
$8 billion for intercity passenger rail projects and rail congestion grants, with priority for high-speed rail
$6.9 billion for new equipment for public transportation projects (Federal Transit Administration)
$1.5 billion for national surface transportation discretionary grants
$1.3 billion for Amtrak
$1.1 billion in grants for airport improvements
$750 million for the construction of new public rail transportation systems and other fixed guideway systems.
$750 million for the maintenance of existing public transportation systems
$200 million for FAA upgrades to air traffic control centers and towers, facilities, and equipment
$100 million in grants for improvements to domestic shipyards

Water, sewage, environment, and public lands

Total: $18 billion

$4.6 billion for the Army Corps of Engineers for environmental restoration, flood protection, hydropower, and navigation infrastructure projects
$4 billion for the Clean Water State Revolving Fund wastewater treatment infrastructure improvements (EPA)
$2 billion for the Drinking Water State Revolving Fund drinking water infrastructure improvements (EPA)
$1.38 billion for rural drinking water and waste disposal projects
$1 billion to the Bureau of Reclamation for drinking water projects for rural or drought-likely areas
$750 million to the National Park Service
$650 million to the Forest Service
$600 million for hazardous waste cleanup at Superfund sites (EPA)
$515 million for wildfire prevention projects
$500 million for Bureau of Indian Affairs infrastructure projects
$340 million to the Natural Resources Conservation Service for watershed infrastructure projects
$320 million to the Bureau of Land Management
$300 million for reductions in emissions from diesel engines (EPA)
$300 million to improve Land Ports of Entry (GSA)
$280 million for National Wildlife Refuges and the National Fish Hatchery System
$220 million to the International Boundary and Water Commission to repair flood control systems along the Rio Grande
$200 million for cleanup of leaking Underground Storage Tanks (EPA)
$100 million for cleaning former industrial and commercial sites (Brownfields) (EPA)

Government buildings and facilities
Impact of the ARRA on Department of Defense facilities across the nation.

Total: $7.2 billion

$4.2 billion to repair and modernize Defense Department facilities.
$890 million to improve housing for service members
$750 million for federal buildings and U.S. Courthouses (GSA)
$250 million to improve Job Corps training facilities
$240 million for new child development centers
$240 million for the maintenance of United States Coast Guard facilities
$200 million for Department of Homeland Security headquarters
$176 million for Agriculture Research Service repairs and improvements
$150 million for the construction of state extended-care facilities
$100 million to improve facilities of the National Guard

Communications, information, and security technologies
Federal Communications Commission (FCC) map showing the availability of broadband internet access in the U.S.

Total: $10.5 billion

$7.2 billion for complete broadband and wireless Internet access
$1 billion for explosive detection systems for airports
$500 million to update the computer center at the Social Security Administration
$420 million for construction and repairs at ports of entry
$290 million to upgrade IT platforms at the State Department
$280 million to upgrade border security technologies
$210 million to build and upgrade fire stations
$200 million for IT and claims processing improvements for Veterans Benefits Administration
$150 million to upgrade port security
$150 million for the security of transit systems
$50 million for IT improvements at the Farm Service Agency
$26 million to improve security systems at the Department of Agriculture headquarters

Energy Infrastructure

Total: $21.5 billion[46][47]

$6 billion for the cleanup of radioactive waste (mostly nuclear weapons production sites)[48]
$4.5 billion for the Office of Electricity and Energy Reliability to modernize the nation's electrical grid and smart grid.
$4.5 billion to increase energy efficiency in federal buildings (GSA)
$3.25 billion for the Western Area Power Administration for power transmission system upgrades.
$3.25 billion for the Bonneville Power Administration for power transmission system upgrades.

Energy efficiency and renewable energy research and investment
Loans and investments into green energy technology are a significant part of the final bill

Total: $27.2 billion

$6 billion for renewable energy and electric transmission technologies loan guarantees
$5 billion for weatherizing modest-income homes
$3.4 billion for carbon capture and low emission coal research
$3.2 billion toward Energy Efficiency and Conservation Block Grants.[49]
$3.1 billion for the State Energy Program to help states invest in energy efficiency and renewable energy
$2 billion for manufacturing of advanced car battery (traction) systems and components.
$800 million for biofuel research, development, and demonstration projects
$602 million to support the use of energy efficient technologies in building and in industry
$500 million for training of green-collar workers (by the Department of Labor)
$400 million for the Geothermal Technologies Program
$400 million for electric vehicle technologies
$300 million for energy efficient appliance rebates
$300 million for state and local governments to purchase energy efficient vehicles
$300 million to acquire electric vehicles for the federal vehicle fleet (GSA)
$250 million to increase energy efficiency in low-income housing
$204 million in funding for research and testing facilities at national laboratories
$190 million in funding for wind, hydro, and other renewable energy projects
$115 million to develop and deploy solar power technologies
$110 million for the development of high efficiency vehicles
$42 million in support of new deployments of fuel cell technologies


Housing

Total: $14.7 billion[50]

$4 billion to the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) for repairing and modernizing public housing, including increasing the energy efficiency of units.
$2.25 billion in tax credits for financing low-income housing construction
$2 billion for Section 8 housing rental assistance
$2 billion for the Neighborhood Stabilization Program to purchase and repair foreclosed vacant housing
$1.5 billion for rental assistance to prevent homelessness
$1 billion in community development block grants for state and local governments
$555 million in mortgage assistance for wounded service members (Army Corps of Engineers)
$510 million for the rehabilitation of Native American housing
$250 million for energy efficient modernization of low-income housing
$200 million for helping rural Americans buy homes (Department of Agriculture)
$140 million in grants for independent living centers for elderly blind persons (Dept. of Education)
$130 million for rural community facilities (Department of Agriculture)
$100 million to help remove lead paint from public housing
$100 million emergency food and shelter for homeless (Department of Homeland Security)

Scientific research
NASA is among the government agencies receiving additional funds under the Act

Total: $7.6 billion[citation needed]

$3 billion to the National Science Foundation
$2 billion to the United States Department of Energy
$1 billion to NASA, including "$400 million for space exploration related activities. Of this amount, $50 million [was] to be used for the development of commercial crew space transportation concepts and enabling capabilities."
$600 million to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)
$580 million to the National Institute of Standards and Technology
$230 million for NOAA operations, research and facilities
$140 million to the United States Geological Survey
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President Obama in Ohio on March 6, 2009 for the Graduation of the Columbus Police Division’s 114th Class, saying that the ARRA did bring some good news.

Total: $10.6 billion

$4 billion for state and local law enforcement agencies
$1.1 billion in waivers on interest payments for state unemployment trust funds
$1 billion in preparation for the 2010 census
$1 billion in added funding for child support enforcement
$750 million for DTV conversion coupons and DTV transition education
$749 million in crop insurance reinstatement, and emergency loans for farmers
$730 million in SBA loans for small businesses
$500 million for the Social Security Administration to process disability and retirement backlogs
$201 million in additional funding for AmeriCorps and other community service organizations
$150 million for Urban and Rural economic recovery programs
$150 million for an increase of claims processing military staff
$150 million in loans for rural businesses
$50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts to support artists
$50 million for the National Cemetery Administration[/B]


BTW, I am having a nice day - TTYL............[/QUOTE]

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Obama got bin laden. Before you brush off this statement, what was main objective into going into Afghanistan? To get bin laden. We're stuck with that war cost for decades. Did bush get him? No. Why not after making such a big deal about it? Obama comes in, never mentions bin laden, then one day, wham, bam, thank you m'am, bin laden dead. Not that I agree with the whole war on terror. Point is, most Americans did, and it took an Obama to do it. So post what you want on marching orders from day and night fox news broadcast, Obama went in and did what your boy couldn't do.


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Remember now, Illinois is a corruption free state, although I pointed out before to Mikeyy that Chicago wasn't a "state."

This is the type of reporting that people like xcali and Mikeyy ignore and refuse to read, because they tell the truth about Barak Obama. The article has been on the board for awhile.

They know the truth hurts - and they don't want it published. That is why they defend Obama so desperately in here, and post lies and innuendo, repeatedly calling those of us who know the truth about the President, present the facts, and avail ourselves of the information on both sides of the argument, as out of touch, biased and liars. I know the truth about the guy, and didn't go into an 8th grade school girl swoon like xcali and Mikeyy over a boy-band, in 2008 when everybody was touting Obama as the second coming, the one who would right all of America's ills; the Hope-Obama; break the glass ceiling candidate.

Mr. Obama is educated, elegant, charismatic, but phony. His rhetoric than, and now at the end of his term, has never even come close to matching his performance, and his inexperience and failure to learn how to govern has put this country in a terrible financial mess which will probably take 50-years or so to right. Notice how all Obama's claims (job numbers), policies - are aimed at what they might, not will do for the country - five years from now? He will be out of office - hopefully by January 21st if the voters don't make the same mistake of listening to his unfulfilled "vision" for America. That vision is the wrong way to go, but you won't convince our two blind mice of it.....
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Based on what Mikeyy? Your opinion? Bet you didn't even read the three articles on the board, and I know you don't dare read Coulter's article, that would destroy your entire house of cards regarding this divisive, lying, incompetent in the White House named Obama......
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Based on what Mikeyy? Your opinion? Bet you didn't even read the three articles on the board, and I know you don't dare read Coulter's article, that would destroy your entire house of cards regarding this divisive, lying, incompetent in the White House named Obama......
The right has been divisive, I don't see Obama being incompetent. Ya see you think I would read Colter's opinions and that would supplant my own view. But her views are based on lies and half truths. Just like you telling me Obama is divisive. I know where the divisiveness comes from and it's with those who met and planned Obama's demise. I am satisfied overall with Obama's job. There has been enough people trying to bring him down since he started. Why would I want to hear more of the same BS?
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All that statistical, social engineering, socialism, Washington has the answers, that hasn't worked one bit, leaving an unemployment rate of over 8% in the country - bail outs of big business and banks, which are keeping their TARP funds on the sidelines because they don't trust the economic policies of this President and a huge credit downgrade of the American monetary system, which could have been prevented easily by the President. The classic difference between Republican's and Democrats.

Republican's - less government interference, particularly from Washington, in our systems and business and trust in local institutions.

Democrats - all good ideas must come from the government in Washington, the state's are not capable of administering their own affairs.

Just about anybody could go through all of this junk, and refute it as having no impact on America, name me a bridge or stretch of road under construction with government stimulus money, or a stretch of our outdated railroad tracks somewhere that it is repairing, and how many people got employed doing those jobs, you won't find them.

No Gulf of Mexico oil drilling, no Keystone pipeline - we continue to pay for Middle East oil at premium prices, and additionally, with American soldiers blood, instead of just using normal, safe, construction methods to insure the underwater water supply in the plains states is safe. Any idea how many jobs would have been created by the Keystone pipeline? This is a jobs President who killed off one of the best and brightest ideas to eliminate foreign oil dependence in 50-years, on the off-chance that an oil spill accident "might" occur if we went ahead and built it. If Boeing operated on that philosophy, they would have been out of business in the 1940's. That's just one of the complaints most people have with the failed Stimulus bill, passed by the Democratic Congress, before the American people refuted this President, by voting his party out in 2010.

Why you waste your time continuing to spout this message of Big Government - massive spending and waste Stimulus, which hasn't worked whatsoever, is beyond me. I don't trust Washington - Republican or Democrat, but in particular, don't trust dishonest people like Barak Obama, with no experience or ideas, other than lets throw money at the problem and claim it went away. That's his political philosophy, and it has failed miserably in the time he has been in office, time he was voted out.......
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All that statistical, social engineering, socialism, Washington has the answers, that hasn't worked one bit, leaving an unemployment rate of over 8% in the country - bail outs of big business and banks, which are keeping their TARP funds on the sidelines because they don't trust the economic policies of this President and a huge credit downgrade of the American monetary system, which could have been prevented easily by the President. The classic difference between Republican's and Democrats.

Republican's - less government interference, particularly from Washington, in our systems and business and trust in local institutions.

Democrats - all good ideas must come from the government in Washington, the state's are not capable of administering their own affairs.

Just about anybody could go through all of this junk, and refute it as having no impact on America, name me a bridge or stretch of road under construction with government stimulus money, or a stretch of our outdated railroad tracks somewhere that it is repairing, and how many people got employed doing those jobs, you won't find them.

No Gulf of Mexico oil drilling, no Keystone pipeline - we continue to pay for Middle East oil at premium prices, and additionally, with American soldiers blood, instead of just using normal, safe, construction methods to insure the underwater water supply in the plains states is safe. Any idea how many jobs would have been created by the Keystone pipeline? This is a jobs President who killed off one of the best and brightest ideas to eliminate foreign oil dependence in 50-years, on the off-chance that an oil spill accident "might" occur if we went ahead and built it. If Boeing operated on that philosophy, they would have been out of business in the 1940's. That's just one of the complaints most people have with the failed Stimulus bill, passed by the Democratic Congress, before the American people refuted this President, by voting his party out in 2010.

Why you waste your time continuing to spout this message of Big Government - massive spending and waste Stimulus, which hasn't worked whatsoever, is beyond me. I don't trust Washington - Republican or Democrat, but in particular, don't trust dishonest people like Barak Obama, with no experience or ideas, other than lets throw money at the problem and claim it went away. That's his political philosophy, and it has failed miserably in the time he has been in office, time he was voted out.......
Here is an idea, Vote for Romney
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All that statistical, social engineering, socialism, Washington has the answers, that hasn't worked one bit, leaving an unemployment rate of over 8% in the country - bail outs of big business and banks, which are keeping their TARP funds on the sidelines because they don't trust the economic policies of this President and a huge credit downgrade of the American monetary system, which could have been prevented easily by the President. The classic difference between Republican's and Democrats.
Wow, all that ignorance in one paragraph.

Remember it was Bush who bailed out the banks.. You don't get a pass on that one. The Auto bailouts came from the same tarp payment and we all know how successful that one turned out.
Using the 8% talking point is lame at best. If Congress would get off their asses and pass a jobs bill we could drop unemployment below 6% but they can't afford to do that now, because they have no other way to beat Obama.
The credit downgrade was caused by Congress, specifically the Radical Extremists Tea Party known as the Economic Terrorist Organization. You should know them well since you sound like their leader.

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Just about anybody could go through all of this junk, and refute it as having no impact on America, name me a bridge or stretch of road under construction with government stimulus money, or a stretch of our outdated railroad tracks somewhere that it is repairing, and how many people got employed doing those jobs, you won't find them.
Yet you have been unable to do so in how many replies now?.. If you could refute it you surely would have amazed us by now but you haven't. That tells me you know you're full of sh** so you just stick to the story you have been trained to repeat.

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No Gulf of Mexico oil drilling, no Keystone pipeline - we continue to pay for Middle East oil at premium prices, and additionally, with American soldiers blood, instead of just using normal, safe, construction methods to insure the underwater water supply in the plains states is safe. Any idea how many jobs would have been created by the Keystone pipeline? This is a jobs President who killed off one of the best and brightest ideas to eliminate foreign oil dependence in 50-years, on the off-chance that an oil spill accident "might" occur if we went ahead and built it. If Boeing operated on that philosophy, they would have been out of business in the 1940's. That's just one of the complaints most people have with the failed Stimulus bill, passed by the Democratic Congress, before the American people refuted this President, by voting his party out in 2010.
I guess that's why Oil imports are at the lowest they have been in 30 years, Oil Exports are higher . The Keystone Pipeline would have created maybe 10,000 new jobs at most, but it was stopped by the Governor of Nebraska not President Obama. They proposed building over the states largest water supply and the risk of a major oil spill was too much to allow it. And for your information all the Oil that will eventually be produced through the Key Stone Line is to be sold to China, not used here in the U.S.

You are clearly lost when it comes to the subject of politics.

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Why you waste your time continuing to spout this message of Big Government - massive spending and waste Stimulus, which hasn't worked whatsoever, is beyond me. I don't trust Washington - Republican or Democrat, but in particular, don't trust dishonest people like Barak Obama, with no experience or ideas, other than lets throw money at the problem and claim it went away. That's his political philosophy, and it has failed miserably in the time he has been in office, time he was voted out.......
When are you going to display a little honesty? all you are doing is parroting the right wing and spreading baseless lies . You claim the Presidents policies are to blame yet ignore the Previous administrations part in this. Obama hasn't been able to enact his economic policies... Other than the stimulus and healthcare he has gotten nothing past the Economic terrorists. President Obama has been trying for almost 4 years to go back to Clinton Era economics but has been blocked the whole way.. so how do we know it won't work if they won't let him pass it?.

Too bad you turned Republican, although I would have a hard time believing you were ever anything but a radical extremist, you do it so well. Obama will win his second term most likely, because Willard is not fit to be President and his pick for VP is proof of that.

I'm still waiting for that refutation of the facts from you, something other than right wing talking points and parroted insults and phrases. I won't hold my breath though...

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Default Re: Obama’s signature move: unsealing private records

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Wow, all that ignorance in one paragraph.

Remember it was Bush who bailed out the banks.. You don't get a pass on that one. The Auto bailouts came from the same tarp payment and we all know how successful that one turned out.
Using the 8% talking point is lame at best. If Congress would get off their asses and pass a jobs bill we could drop unemployment below 6% but they can't afford to do that now, because they have no other way to beat Obama.
The credit downgrade was caused by Congress, specifically the Radical Extremists Tea Party known as the Economic Terrorist Organization. You should know them well since you sound like their leader.



Yet you have been unable to do so in how many replies now?.. If you could refute it you surely would have amazed us by now but you haven't. That tells me you know you're full of sh** so you just stick to the story you have been trained to repeat.



I guess that's why Oil imports are at the lowest they have been in 30 years, Oil Exports are higher . The Keystone Pipeline would have created maybe 10,000 new jobs at most, but it was stopped by the Governor of Nebraska not President Obama. They proposed building over the states largest water supply and the risk of a major oil spill was too much to allow it. And for your information all the Oil that will eventually be produced through the Key Stone Line is to be sold to China, not used here in the U.S.

You are clearly lost when it comes to the subject of politics.



When are you going to display a little honesty? all you are doing is parroting the right wing and spreading baseless lies . You claim the Presidents policies are to blame yet ignore the Previous administrations part in this. Obama hasn't been able to enact his economic policies... Other than the stimulus and healthcare he has gotten nothing past the Economic terrorists. President Obama has been trying for almost 4 years to go back to Clinton Era economics but has been blocked the whole way.. so how do we know it won't work if they won't let him pass it?.

Too bad you turned Republican, although I would have a hard time believing you were ever anything but a radical extremist, you do it so well. Obama will win his second term most likely, because Willard is not fit to be President and his pick for VP is proof of that.

I'm still waiting for that refutation of the facts from you, something other than right wing talking points and parroted insults and phrases. I won't hold my breath though...

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When all else fails, blame it on Bush and the Tea Party. And also, convienently forget that Obama had a majority in the Senate and House for almost 2 years so that you can blame Republicans for being obstructionists.

Obama is incompetent. He has failed miserably and his programs have put this country on the brink of bankruptcy. How anyone can just overlook this and still vote for this guy is beyond me. Please, wake up and smell the coffee.
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