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Old 07-02-2012, 10:21 AM
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It's not shocking that Rick Scott becomes the first governor to announce officially that his state (Florida) won't accept the new Medicaid money under the health-care law. In case you're not up on the deets, it's the subsidies for poor and working-class people, up to 133 percent above the poverty line, to buy insurance.

Funny. I seem to remember a time when Scott was quite eager to take Medi-CARE money! That wasn't his. You remember what I'm talking about.

So this is what social programs mean to Scott. As a private-sector businessman, something to steal from. As a public "servant," something to play political games with. Floridians will die so that he can be first in the wingnut line.

I don't know the precise number, but in a state that size, surely a couple million people/families who'll be eligible for care under the new law in 2014--families of four earning up to $88,000 are eligible for the subsidies--will be denied the chance to buy coverage at subsidized rates because Scott has refused this money. From a policy perspective, this is the next battleground, the pressure point of resistance for the hard-shell ideologues. How many states will really sacrifice billions in federal dollars for the sake of ideology, and how many will do it before the election so they get a gold star from Rove?
Those interested in what we used to call facts may want to read through this nice primer from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, which describes the Medicaid transfer from the feds to the states and explains how the federal government will actually be picking up 93 percent of the costs over the next nine years.

As to biggest health-care news of the weekend, the John Roberts switch reported by CBS yesterday, I will have much more to say about that story tomorrow. But watch these Republican governors. If not for the poor people in their states, I say fine, let them refuse it. Saves me money since I live in Maryland and they're mostly moocher states anyway. It's just a few more of my tax spare change not going to Mississippi. All right by me.
The Resistance Begins: Rick Scott Announces Florida Won't Take Medicaid Money - The Daily Beast

It will be interesting to see this play out...
The governors may resist, but at what cost?
The mentality of "Don't steal from medicare to support socialized healthcare" and "Keep government out of medicaid" will sound great initially, but the reality of those situations (um sir, you ARE taking government money... ) will sink in.
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I wonder how his constituents will feel about that? Especially those that might need that healthcare?
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They just reported on MSNBC about this. Apparently Florida currently has 900,000 citizens that will be qualified under this medicaid expansion. I'd like to see how an already extremely unpopular Governor tells those 900,000 people to stick it, he's not taking the money.
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The headline is a lie...Thank you, media...
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The headline is a lie...Thank you, media...
What about this headline?..

Florida Joins Republican Pushback Against Medicaid Expansion
On Sunday night, Governor Rick Scott of Florida announced that he would be opting out of the expansion. Scott, a Republican, joined two other Republican governors, Bobby Jindal of Louisiana and Scott Walker of Wisconsin, who will refuse the extra Medicaid funding.

Or this one?..

Gov. Scott: Florida will opt out of parts of health care law
TALLAHASSEE — Florida will opt out of spending about $2 billion more to expand Medicaid, and won't build insurance exchanges, another optional part of the federal health care law, Gov. Rick Scott's office said Sunday.

Apparently it's not a lie.. And Rick Scott isn't the only one " taking a stand"...
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Florida Joins Republican Pushback Against Medicaid Expansion
On Sunday night, Governor Rick Scott of Florida announced that he would be opting out of the expansion. Scott, a Republican, joined two other Republican governors, Bobby Jindal of Louisiana and Scott Walker of Wisconsin, who will refuse the extra Medicaid funding.

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Gov. Scott: Florida will opt out of parts of health care law
TALLAHASSEE — Florida will opt out of spending about $2 billion more to expand Medicaid, and won't build insurance exchanges, another optional part of the federal health care law, Gov. Rick Scott's office said Sunday.
Those two headlines are MUCH more truthful...

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Apparently it's not a lie.. And Rick Scott isn't the only one " taking a stand"...
You missed the point entirely...
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Those two headlines are MUCH more truthful...

You missed the point entirely...
Maybe if you clarify which part is the lie?.. You said the headline was a lie.. so now you're saying only part of it was a lie?...
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Maybe if you clarify which part is the lie?.. You said the headline was a lie.. so now you're saying only part of it was a lie?...
It's a lie of omission...

Unlike what the headline says, Florida will STILL be receiving Medicaid money...Maybe not all of it available, but the headline reads as if NO Medicaid money will be taken...
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Default Re: The Resistance Begins: Rick Scott Announces Florida Won't Take Medicaid Money

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It's a lie of omission...

Unlike what the headline says, Florida will STILL be receiving Medicaid money...Maybe not all of it available, but the headline reads as if NO Medicaid money will be taken...
yeah I got that part, Agreed that part is a lie. There's also a lie in the actual article .

What they are failing to tell people is that for the first three years the Federal Government is funding the Medicaid expansion 100%. so the States don't have to expand their budgets for at least three years. Then after that the Government will fund Medicaid as much as 93%.. which means the states can still afford it.
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Default Re: The Resistance Begins: Rick Scott Announces Florida Won't Take Medicaid Money

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It's a lie of omission...

Unlike what the headline says, Florida will STILL be receiving Medicaid money...Maybe not all of it available, but the headline reads as if NO Medicaid money will be taken...
No I think most people especially in Florida are aware they are talking about the expansion of medicare under obama care.
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