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Old 05-24-2012, 10:20 AM
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If the far right had their way, science class would teach creationism instead of evolution, there'd probably be some required religious morals class, and there'd be teacher-led prayer in schools. Oh yeah, and they'd probably drop music programs altogether to make room for more sports. Oh how important sports is
More stupid. If we had our way the science class would INCLUDE Intelligent Design and not ignore it. We would ALLOW teacher led prayers. If expanding sports programs meant that more kids went to school, then yes we would exapnd them. If expand arts and music meant more kids would go to school, then we would exapnd them. BTW - It's liberals who support defunding arts and music, not conservatives.
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It's simply pointing out that when the other side does it it's somehow
No, the point was to deflect. No one believes for a second one side is as innocent and pure as the driven snow. You did not like that this liberal teacher was being shown in a negative light, so you felt the urge to distract and deflect by bringing up something completely irrelevant.

This is not my first rodeo, Kizzume. I knew about these techniques before you were born. They may work on others, but not me.
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Once again, that would be a delusional thing to assert. It is the product of a distorted memory.
Nothing distorted. I saw it from right wingers on CNN during the time and also on forums. You seem to have selective memory--that is, you lost your memory of anything bad right wingers did.
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Why don't you try to produce some articles from the time to support your position? I think you'll be surprised at the paucity of the material.
Sorry, I'm not doing a bunch of research for something I remember pretty plainly.
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No, the point was to deflect. No one believes for a second one side is as innocent and pure as the driven snow. You did not like that this liberal teacher was being shown in a negative light
I don't care that the liberal teacher was being shown in a negative light. I'm not trying to defend her.
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Nothing distorted. I saw it from right wingers on CNN during the time and also on forums. You seem to have selective memory--that is, you lost your memory of anything bad right wingers did.


Sorry, I'm not doing a bunch of research for something I remember pretty plainly.
That's pretty scary, considering that what you remember never happened. But, if living in a a false reality give you comfort. . .
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That's pretty scary, considering that what you remember never happened. But, if living in a a false reality give you comfort. . .
There was plenty of "how dare you criticize the president during a time like this" and the occasional "it's unAmerican". Don't try to pretend it wasn't everywhere at the time.

EDIT: You try to dig up articles from 2001. And copy and paste from forums from 2001 that don't exist anymore. Or television footage of people arguing on the news from 2001. It's kind-of difficult. Plenty of footage of 9/11 itself.
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And let's not pretend that right wingers didn't declare anyone unAmerican who didn't worship Bush's feet for several months after 9/11.
I was told that because I criticized the Iraq war, I was a terrorist sympathizer, a traitor, a communist, and I should be shot for not supporting our "war president".

Remember what they were saying about the Dixie Chicks?
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Isn't it curious how a thread concerning an actual incident of screaming indoctrination to a present ideology inflicted on a group of school children, turns into an imagining of some selected factoid, past, fantasy Bush dystopia.

Quick look over there! The straw men are attacking, and Oh my God! They all look like George Bush.
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This week, Tanya Dixon-Neely, teacher of social studies at North Rowan High School, was suspended after tape was released showing her berating a student for daring to criticize President Obama. But that’s not going to solve North Rowan High’s ills. Bias in politics leads to rotten education, and North Rowan High’s statistics show that it falls far behind the state average in teaching civics and economics, as well as U.S. history.

According to North Carolina’s Education First Report Cards, as Red Alert Politics reports, the school underperforms across the board in terms of percentage of student scores at or above grade level. But its single biggest gap with state standards is in U.S. history, where just 52.5 percent of students are at or above grade level, compared with 81.5 percent of students statewide. In civics and economics, just 64.5 percent of students are at or above grade level, as opposed to 80 percent of students statewide.

Teaching bias and ignorance doesn’t account for the entirety of this gap, of course; there are socioeconomic issues that come into play. But there’s no doubt that it’s difficult to learn history, civics and economics when teachers suggest that asking questions about the president of the United States is a criminal offense.
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I was told that because I criticized the Iraq war, I was a terrorist sympathizer, a traitor, a communist, and I should be shot for not supporting our "war president".

Remember what they were saying about the Dixie Chicks?
I do...

FIRST...What they said was on foreign soil (UK)...The traditional line is "Leave the criticism at the shore"...

SECOND...What they said was a personal attack saying they were "ashamed" for Texas because Bush is from there...

THIRD...They said it ten days BEFORE the invasion of Iraq...Not AFTER...
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