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Old 04-07-2012, 10:22 AM
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I wasn't referring to Zimmerman. I was referring to the Neo Nazi's.


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Unfortunately, being a racist ass, carrying a weapon and just itching to shoot someone, while indicative of mental and emotional problems, is not illegal.

Perhaps a local judge could order a 72 hour psych hold?

In the 1960s my home town sheriff put MLK in jail to protect his town.
Sure the city could revoke these guy's parade or protest license and tell them to cease and desist for the protection of the peace. If they don't comply they can be removed to a jail cell for their own protection and that of the community.
By the same token if the Panthers were actually in Sanford and not just on the internet he/she could do the same thing with them. No law says a sheriff or city official cannot protect the community at large if their is a perceived imminent threat to its peace.
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In the 1960s my home town sheriff put MLK in jail to protect his town.
Sure the city could revoke these guy's parade or protest license and tell them to cease and desist for the protection of the peace. If they don't comply they can be removed to a jail cell for their own protection and that of the community.
By the same token if the Panthers were actually in Sanford and not just on the internet he/she could do the same thing with them. No law says a sheriff or city official cannot protect the community at large if their is a perceived imminent threat to its peace.
Wow!

It's not the '60's any more when certain groups civil rights were openly violated.

It's the 21st century and cops can't get away with that type of crap anymore.

No, the sheriff cannot legally detain someone on the basis that someone else might do something violent. If and when that 'somebody else' actually starts to do something violent, THEN the sheriff can arrest the person committing the violent act.

The neo nazis aren't having a parade or holding a protest. They are simply walking down public streets which they have every legal right to do.

Even if they were holding a parade, Skokie has already proven that the free speech and free assembly rights of a group, no matter how offensive the group, cannot be denied based on the fact that 'something might happen'.





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Wow!

It's not the '60's any more when certain groups civil rights were openly violated.

It's the 21st century and cops can't get away with that type of crap anymore.

No, the sheriff cannot legally detain someone on the basis that someone else might do something violent. If and when that 'somebody else' actually starts to do something violent, THEN the sheriff can arrest the person committing the violent act.

The neo nazis aren't having a parade or holding a protest. They are simply walking down public streets which they have every legal right to do.

Even if they were holding a parade, Skokie has already proven that the free speech and free assembly rights of a group, no matter how offensive the group, cannot be denied based on the fact that 'something might happen'.





So they have to wait till the first shot is fired? Not if they declare marshal law.
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No, the sheriff cannot legally detain someone on the basis that someone else might do something violent.
If it was Spike Lee, Roseanne Barr, the black Panther Party, and possiblyAl Sharpton would already be in jail for stuff they've done concerning the Martin issue.
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Sanford appears to be a potential racial powder keg right now. Did you hear this one...



Read more: Trayvon Martin case: 6 youths 'beat man, 78, in twisted racial revenge attack' | Mail Online

Thanks for the falsely edited tape that turned the Martin shooting into a racial issue NBC.
[quote]NBC News has fired a producer who worked on a 'Today' show segment that featured a heavily edited 911 recording in which George Zimmerman appears to racially profile Trayvon Martin before the teen's shooting, according to The New York Times.

The name of the Miami-based producer who was fired was not released, according to the Times report, which does not refer to any disciplinary action that may have been taken against other NBC staffers.

NBC News has been slammed for the report since last week, and had promised an investigation into what has been described as a grossly misleading editing of the tape.

NBC declined to confirm the firing, according to the Times report.

"An internal investigation determined that a "seasoned" producer was to blame for the edit, NBC had said earlier in the week, before news of the firing.

The edited version of the call that aired on Today clearly made Zimmerman appear to say Martin looked dangerous because of his race.

"This guy looks like he's up to no good … he looks black," Zimmerman says in the version of the tape that aired.

In the unedited version of the call, however, Zimmerman answers a question about Martin's race only after being specifically asked by the 911 dispatcher.

"This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or like he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about," Zimmerman said, without referring at all to Martin's race.
Only after the 911 dispatcher asks "black, white or Hispanic?" did Zimmerman reply "He looks black."

The 17-year-old Martin was killed on Feb. 26 by Zimmerman in the city of Sanford, Fla., where Martin was visiting. Zimmerman claims Martin physically attacked him after he questioned why he was in the neighborhood.

Details of what actually happened between the two in the moments before the shooting are not clear, and are currently under investigation.

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So they have to wait till the first shot is fired? Not if they declare marshal law.
So basically, you don't know any more about the process and requirements of declaring MARTIAL law than you do about Civil and Constitutional Rights or the success of the Civil Rights and Womens Rights movements huh?

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[COLOR=""]So basically, you don't know any more about the process and requirements of declaring MARTIAL law than you do about Civil and Constitutional Rights or the success of the Civil Rights and Womens Rights movements huh?

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So basically I wasn't raised to be a robot.
A: A band of individuals with set goals to disrupt race relations is marching in my town which is already sparky due to recent events that have reached national proportions
B: It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the potential disruption perhaps even to riotous proportions
C: As sheriff or mayor/councilman I care about my community and its citizens
D: Give the activist individuals a designated area away from public thoroughfares (say the corner of a park) to do their speeches in say 3 days or put their rabble rousing azzes in jail whether by first declaring marshal law or whatever it takes to keep the peace.


What I understand as your way:
Watch proceedings assuming they will eventually get out of hand and maybe lead to deaths and/or property damage while I hoist my finger as far up my butt as possible.
Wait for said death and or destruction then try to figure out who did what and end up with a bigger mess than the Travon case.
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[B]D: Give the activist individuals a designated area away from public thoroughfares (say the corner of a park) to do their speeches in say 3 days or put their rabble rousing azzes in jail whether by first declaring marshal law or whatever it takes to keep the peace.
Well, how long have the original demagogues been ranting and raving already?
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