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The problem I see is that the article in the OP made it seem like the administration planned for the whole thing to unfold the way it did and I just don't think that's the case. Given that the Catholic church has already fought this battle in the New York courts and lost, I don't think the administration expected them to push back as hard as they did. While I think the compromise is quite fair, it doesn't seem like something they had in their back pocket all along.
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The poster shot hisself in the foot with that cartoon, and did not even notice the selt-inflicted logical repudiation of his stance. Oh, the irony. ![]() The cognitive disconnect inherent in posting that cartoon is hilarious. It actually supports the other cartoons, and defeats the lib poster's argument all by itself. ![]()
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So the President intentionally created a problem and then proposed a solution to the problem he created??? That's what I'm hearing.... That's crap leadership.
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![]() It's like the principal pulling the fire alarm. And afterwards, the Republicans react badly to it. Some start talking about how if the fire raped somebody, and whether or not it was an "honest" rape. Some insist that the person the fire raped should carry the baby to term. Some talk about whether the government should have the power to prevent people from preventing a fire... And some do claim a violation of religious fire freedom. And then, the principal calmly walks everybody out of the school. Announcing that there will be a compromise. But for those Republican presidential candidates who presented those crazy ideas... The bell has been unrung. Something exposed which cannot be hidden again.
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Yes I read the article. I responded to the article. Are you capable of responding to a post or do you just want to create another fantasy argument like usually do?
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You too IP.
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I'll try repeating it for you. If you want to ignore it again, that's still on you... ![]() 1) WHAT did the Democrats actually want regarding contraception and health-care? They wanted the health care option available and the people to know it was available. Who paid for it is irrelevant. If you think that is significant to the issue for Democrats, then you truly don't know what the priorities are... 2) WHAT HAPPENED with the Republicans? Obama did something, so Republicans started talking about it. And the Republican presidential candidates were oblivious to the fact that their pronounced opinions were flying in the face of the majority. ![]() Give 'em enough rope. They'll hang themselves. 3) "Good compromise"? The amusing thing about this claim is YOU EVEN COMMENTED in the thread that cnredd started attempting to blast Obama for this "compromise", where the religious were declaring it completely unsatisfactory. ![]() Worse and even more recently, when cnredd posted in this thread about how some on the religious left were having a problem with the issue, you "Thanked" him for the post. So you "obviously" read it... ![]() But you try to label it as a "good" compromise when people are still trying to insist it isn't? Quote:
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It's not the employers who would be using the contraception. ![]() It's an option for the employees. Hardly a "mandate". Quote:
Considering the positions that the right has espoused on contraception based on Obama putting this center stage, their comments have done more to alienate themselves from the mainstream...
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Because the vast majority of what you say is just irrelevant, prissy bitching with no worth to the discussion.
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