There have been political battles going on for generations now. And because of this the country that our founding fathers built and that our ancestors died for, is being destroyed. I’ve heard that Republicans care more about big corporations, than they do about the country. So I’ve decided to do a lot of research on this matter.

We have people who are dying for this country. A country that is being destroyed from the inside out. We have people who are willing to risk their lives. For the belief and love of what our Founding Fathers wanted for this country.
So now my question for you is: do Liberals care less about our country and our freedom then Conservatives?

One of the most patriotic things you can do is join the Military and be willing to do what is needed for your country and the freedoms which we were given.
So let’s look at some numbers here. I’ve compared 42 states. They are either strong conservative, or strong liberal states.

The numbers really are not all that surprising when you look at the type of laws that the states pass, such as California. They have tried to reward people for breaking the law. Such as giving illegal aliens money that should be going to California citizens.

Then you have Arizona, which is trying to protect its citizens and stop the infiltration of illegal aliens; a group of people that are invading this country - and certain groups want to do nothing about it.

So lets take a look: out of the 42 states, 21 are conservative and 21 are liberal.
I compared the numbers overall, as well as by population.

Now lets look at California and Arizona again.
California, the state that rewards people for breaking our laws, has .456 per 10K people joining the U.S. military and willing to defend our country.
Arizona, the state that has tried to stop the infiltration of our country has 5.569 per 10K people joining the US Military.
So the difference between California and Arizona is 5 people for every 10K.

Now the overall data for this study was:

joining the US Military from the 50 states: .........................119,773
from states commonly considered Republican (red)..............50,061
from states commonly considered Democrat (blue)..............46,129
from states commonly considered evenly mixed (purple).......23,583

So even the overall number is higher for Republican states than for Democrat states. The state that had the least amount of people join was Utah, a Republican state at 113. But that state also had 5.795 out of 10K people joining.
The state with the most was Texas a Republican state at 15,594 and that made it 6.822 for every 10K people joining.
The state that had the least amount of people per 10K was Michigan followed by California in close second. Michigan had .431 so for every 20K people you had less than 1 person joining in Michigan
Out of the 42 states I looked at, 7 states had less than one person for every 10k people.

Why is it that the people who are willing to protect everything that is great about this country are coming more from conservative states, then from liberal states?

In short, why does it seem that liberals claim to be as patriotic as conservatives, but when it comes down to it - the numbers don't confirm it?

Why aren't liberals as willing to lay their lives on the line for the country that gave them the freedom they take for granted?

Why do you attempt to confuse "military service" with caring about "freedom"?


A lot of it is in perspective.
I would argue that a lot of our threats to our "freedoms" these days don't come from foreign countries.
Has a foreign country deprived you of the right to free speech?
Has a foreign country deprived you of the right to free press?
Has a foreign country deprived you of the right to prevent self-incrimination?

The right thrives on fear of other countries.
But comparing the problems of this country's healthcare and the actual deaths from foreign countries? Our healthcare problems are a bigger threat to life.

The liberals stand with protecting against REAL threats, like taking out bin Laden and al Qaeda.
Under Obama's watch, Osama was taken out.
Under Bush's watch, the right didn't even flinch when Bush said the following:

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

The left has the ACLU. A group DEDICATED to fighting for our civil liberties.
But the right demonizes them as "leftist".

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A pretty transparent, and quite pathetic actually, attempt to generalize........ with woefully inadequate statistics.

A "red" state still has a large number of "blues" living in it.....and vice versa.

Using those statistics to prove that particular point...is quite laughable.

Using those same stats, could it not also be hypothesized that conservatives like the idea of war more than liberals?

That they're more blood thirsty?

See how dumb that is?


BTW - Did you actually write that 1AmericansView....or was it done by someone else?


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I do not understand why people are constantly making things out to be an "us vs them" issue. Republicans are not the problem. Democrats are not the problem. The only problem is unnecessary squabbling and inability to compromise and work together for a better America.

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Well said Doc.


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Do states that are right to work have higher enlistment? What are the economic and educational options in these states? and so on and so forth.

"Working together" is easier said, than done. I asked you a direct question on another thread, which you have yet to answer. How is that "work[ing] together"?

I'll agree there is an awful lot of "unnecessary squabbling", but that is a sympton of the problem, it is not the disease. It is a tactic people use to avoid discussing something they feel uncomfortable discussing. Another way people do that, is what you did to me on the other thread after I asked you the aforementioned question.

Unless people are willing to work "through" discussions that are difficult (or uncomforable), working together is nothing more than a concept, bordering on myth.

Did I state that more republicans join the Military no. I said that more people join the Military from Red states.

The stats are all there. the highest number per capita is from a red state. and the lowest is from a red state.

but from red states you get 104 for every 10K combined. where as all blue states you get 84.99 for every 10K.

and yes I wrote it myself.

Our Founding Fathers didn't believe in torture. Our Founding Fathers didn't believe in starting unprovoked wars of aggression. Our Founding Fathers didn't believe in corporate personhood. Our Founding Fathers didn't believe in indefinate detention. The people that do, are the ones destroying this country from within.

The trouble is, "freedom" to many conservatives, is the total abscence of responsibility.

My "freedoms" were never threatened by Iraq and Afghanistan. What about the over 1 million innocent men, women and children that lost their lives as a result of your perceived defense of freedom?

Aren't you the one who said the first thing you would do if you saw a nuclear blast is assault a Republican?

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