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A perfect example of this "push" over the edge is Hillary's book (and mindset) "It Takes A Village"...

It's ideology is that a child is EVEYONE'S effort to raise and upbringing is society's job, not the parents...

Which is, of course, friggin' absurd...
I must admit I have not read her book. I cannot assume anything about it one way or the other. But if the way society has changed is an indication of
the road it will continue to go down in reguards to citisenship, stewardship, responsibility-the "Village" is not what it used to be.
People never used to get too nosey about other peoples' affairs (and that had good and bad points, I'll admit), but they did take it upon themselves to assume the parents of a child would appreciate a phone call if the kid was seen heading for trouble. Granted, we don't have the "community" anymore or at least rarely. But the community was an extended family of sorts. All kids knew someone might see them, so most thought twice about going over the edge.
So it's cock eyed to say it takes a villiage, because we don't have the villiage anymore. A big part of community cohesiveness was the networking moms did with other moms. Like their counterpar -the businessmens' lunch, those coffee clutches and telephone conversations helped to improve living conditions, promoted safety in the home, brought the latest medical findings to the forefront!
I think a lot of us would like to get that villiage back or construct something like it. But unless you want to live in destitute poverty, both parents have to work.
I would like to see a "Just Stay Home" movement for women (or men) who feel they are better suited to housewifery or part time only work! Now that we've got some stuff out of the way-like-if you do work you are entitled to equal pay, I think it's time to take a hard look at why it evolved that women stayed home in the first place. Could it be nature picked them as best suited (usually) for the job? And honoring mothers is something we as a society should get back to in full force. I could go on, but.....
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I must admit I have not read her book. I cannot assume anything about it one way or the other. But if the way society has changed is an indication of
the road it will continue to go down in reguards to citisenship, stewardship, responsibility-the "Village" is not what it used to be.
People never used to get too nosey about other peoples' affairs (and that had good and bad points, I'll admit), but they did take it upon themselves to assume the parents of a child would appreciate a phone call if the kid was seen heading for trouble. Granted, we don't have the "community" anymore or at least rarely. But the community was an extended family of sorts. All kids knew someone might see them, so most thought twice about going over the edge.
So it's cock eyed to say it takes a villiage, because we don't have the villiage anymore. A big part of community cohesiveness was the networking moms did with other moms. Like their counterpar -the businessmens' lunch, those coffee clutches and telephone conversations helped to improve living conditions, promoted safety in the home, brought the latest medical findings to the forefront!
I think a lot of us would like to get that villiage back or construct something like it. But unless you want to live in destitute poverty, both parents have to work.
I would like to see a "Just Stay Home" movement for women (or men) who feel they are better suited to housewifery or part time only work! Now that we've got some stuff out of the way-like-if you do work you are entitled to equal pay, I think it's time to take a hard look at why it evolved that women stayed home in the first place. Could it be nature picked them as best suited (usually) for the job? And honoring mothers is something we as a society should get back to in full force. I could go on, but.....
I am honored to have read this post...
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I never bought the "It takes a village" slogan,it takes good parenting! My wife and I made financial sacrafices,I preferred that she not work until our kids graduated high school. She also believed that our kids needed a mother at home. Result..we have two grown children who have never once been arrested.They have never used drugs and they are both college graduates.

Unfortunatly,we never got that cottage we wanted or the 48 ft sailboat we dreamed about owning but we have two wonderful and highly successful kids and we would not trade that for anything..
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I never bought the "It takes a village" slogan,it takes good parenting! My wife and I made financial sacrafices,I preferred that she not work until our kids graduated high school. She also believed that our kids needed a mother at home. Result..we have two grown children who have never once been arrested.They have never used drugs and they are both college graduates.

Unfortunatly,we never got that cottage we wanted or the 48 ft sailboat we dreamed about owning but we have two wonderful and highly successful kids and we would not trade that for anything..
That's the way things WERE done...

Nowadays, it "F*** the kids...Let's both work and get the boat!"...
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That's the way things WERE done...

Nowadays, it "F*** the kids...Let's both work and get the boat!"...
Unfortunatly,people have become prisoner to their possesions.Young parents start out with two careers to "make ends meet" and the cycle begins.Once they finally get ahead,they can't quit because of those posessions.This forces society to deal with the decisions they made.I have heard so many friends say that their wives cannot quit working. When I ask why?..they say they can't make the mortgage payment on their cottage or they would lose the boat.. Some of their kids are in rehab and others have quit high school.Some of their kids are on their 3rd marriage and they have not reached the age of 35.I blame some of these parents,they got ahead financially at the expense of their children,they know this to be true but they remain in denial.
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Unfortunatly,people have become prisoner to their possesions.Young parents start out with two careers to "make ends meet" and the cycle begins.Once they finally get ahead,they can't quit because of those posessions.This forces society to deal with the decisions they made.I have heard so many friends say that their wives cannot quit working. When I ask why?..they say they can't make the mortgage payment on their cottage or they would lose the boat.. Some of their kids are in rehab and others have quit high school.Some of their kids are on their 3rd marriage and they have not reached the age of 35.I blame some of these parents,they got ahead financially at the expense of their children,they know this to be true but they remain in denial.
Same here. I know some really good people who give their kids everything and everybody in the family is in therapy. One wife/mother has a full time job and started a small business! Or a guy has an executive position at a financial institution, has small children and the wife works full time not at a career thing but just some job that gives her money for xtras.
Couples today maybe need a plan. I know ladies who worked only till they bought furniture for their house or something and then stayed home. But they must have communicated with their husbands on goals and worked on stuff as a team?
Something I've noticed is people used to plant a garden even if they lived in town. They don't do that any more and I fear this complete dependency on mass production. Look at the latest news about the beef industry and you'll see why. But the depression era folks parents knew that every little bit helps but failed to pass it on to their kids. I think also people who were children during the depression were just so tired of making do that they wholeheartedly embraced the new gadgets and quick meals and air conditioning etcetera. Now all that stuff is ingrained in society. It's good for commerce, maybe, but at the expense of people knowing how to really survive.
There's my 0.02 cents!
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I thank you for posting this article.
It is troubling because it is all too true. I see it across America as we travel. You are sometimes afraid to speak honestly because you know you will be labeled prejudiced.
I actually had a young man tell me I was prejudiced for my views on the illegal situation.
I just looked at him and stated, "I believe one of my great grand fathers -Don Isador Canova would take issue with what you just said!"
He was astounded that a person with a foreign sounding ancestor would think we need to give citizens a job first over illegals.
But all of us came from somewhere unless we are native American. Our ancestors had to endure servitude or pay their passage by working aboard ship or what-have-you.
What are these people thinking who don't want to stop the flood?
We need to stress history a lot more in school, I'm thinking!
So we can avoid the pitfalls of others who went before us!
I don't hate America. Planning to destroy America is a communist machinery. America is still the greatest country in the world.
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Excellent commentary on things that are actually happening...Written a couple of years ago but still right on schedule...

From 3 term Democratic governor of Colorado Dick Lamm...

How To Destroy America
A very nice contribution. I believe that if every Americans should they care to read this, america will learn from their mistake and help the country to prosper knowing that America has many enemies now...
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Excellent commentary on things that are actually happening...Written a couple of years ago but still right on schedule...

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This is challenge to all the presidential candidate. They must look every corner of the problem and plan a good solution to the problem
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How to destroy America? Just vote McCain and it sure we destroy America and the legacy of our nation. Okay, it's just my opinion.
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