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Pray tell what are these "drastic" cuts. The Dimocrat plan is raise a few billion in taxes over a decade to justify trillions more in deficit spending. Obama's budget proposal, rejected by the Senate, calls for $13 trillion in new deficit spending while the corporate jet tax increase might yield as much as $3 billion during the same decade. But don't worry, tax and trust Dimocrates to deal with the spending induced fiscal crisis.
"The Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, has talked about supporting a debt reduction measure of $3 trillion or even $4 trillion if the Republicans meet him part way. There are Democrats in the White House and elsewhere who would be willing to accept Medicare cuts if the Republicans would be willing to increase revenues. ..
trillions of dollars in spending cuts in exchange for a few hundred billion dollars of revenue increases. "
Why didn't you read it before commenting? You might agree with the article.
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Reid's not cutting anything. He knows he won't get tax cuts.

He could promise $30 or $40T and his words would be hollow.
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Reid's not cutting anything. He knows he won't get tax cuts.

He could promise $30 or $40T and his words would be hollow.
Basic mistrust the cornerstone of non negotiation.
And there HAS to be negotiation.
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Basic mistrust the cornerstone of non negotiation.
And there HAS to be negotiation.
No need to negotiate with a party about to get its asses kicked out of what branches of government it still controls for what they have done for the past four years.
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What are David Brooks conservative credentials, exactly?
At various times, Brooks worked for such conservative publications as the Washington Times, The Wall Street Journal, and The Weekly Standard. And this is certainly suggestive, as regarding his political leanings at one time.

More recently, however, he has been affiliated with The New York Times and PBS.

To note this change in emphasis is certainly not tantamount to demonizing the man. It is simply to recognize the obvious, viz., that his views have gradually changed, from center-right to center-left...
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Was watching some coverage of the Florida mom blitz and the Glen Beck came on so I flipped the channel. Guy on the next channel over said it reminded him of the King Solomon dilemma about the two women claiming the same child. We all know how Solomon determined which was the real mother. He offered to have the baby cut in half and the real mom said she'd give the baby away rather than have it killed.
The republican congressmen seem not to love this country as the Dems who will probably in the end give in instead of see the country devastated perhaps beyond repair.
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Was watching some coverage of the Florida mom blitz and the Glen Beck came on so I flipped the channel. Guy on the next channel over said it reminded him of the King Solomon dilemma about the two women claiming the same child. We all know how Solomon determined which was the real mother. He offered to have the baby cut in half and the real mom said she'd give the baby away rather than have it killed.
So you believe it would "kill" the country to decline to raise the debt ceiling (which seems silly anyway; after all, why have a "ceiling" if it will be automatically raised whenever one approaches it?); yet the country will be essentially unharmed if it attempts to live vastly beyond its means ad infinitum?

You cannot seriously believe that. Especially the latter part of that equation...
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So you believe it would "kill" the country to decline to raise the debt ceiling (which seems silly anyway; after all, why have a "ceiling" if it will be automatically raised whenever one approaches it?); yet the country will be essentially unharmed if it attempts to live vastly beyond its means ad infinitum?

You cannot seriously believe that. Especially the latter part of that equation...
I don't believe anyone is making that argument.
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I don't believe anyone is making that argument.
Well, that appears to be what another poster is suggesting.

But I will anticipate her own response, and see if that is indeed what she intends to say...
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That was an excellent article by Mr. Brooks and it pretty much sums up how moderate voters are feeling toward the Republicans. Being a Republican myself, I have a hard time with the way my party has been infected by an ideological extremism that has wound its way through every plank on the platform. It seems that the Republican party espouses small government principles until it comes to one of their pet social issues...then it's all about expanding government to make sure that their morality is enforced. Fiscal responsibility is only paid lip service and the true aims of the party, lately, have been to posture and hold hostage any inititiative by the President by making unruly demands with no spirit of compromise.

Fact of the matter is, my fellow Republicans, no one gives a damned about your social agenda or your moral disapproval. There isn't a single small government idea about pushing someone like Bachmann as the party darling when you have great candidates like Ron Paul, a true conservative, and Mitt Romney, who could bring in the moderate majority.

Fiscal responsibility is getting the bills paid on their due date and not staining this country with bad credit over some insignificant ideological battle with the opposition party. It's going to take some minor tax increases to get a deal pushed through and if Obama wants to repeal his own tax break for corporate jets, let him do it. It's insignificant in the long run.

And you're going to cost us another election if you keep it up. I am already so disgusted, I may vote democrat for President for the first time in my life just because I can't stand the idea of power going to the hands of a bunch of grumpy old men acting like spoiled little brats.
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