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I don't know where this video was shot but here's something:

In a campaign speech he gave in Liberty State Park in Liberty, New Jersey on Labor Day 1980, Reagan, ...

... expressed his support of Polish workers who were, under eventual Nobel Peace Prize winner Lech Walesa's leadership, rising up against the Communist regime's domination and demanding the right to form unions, organize and bargain.

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"They remind us that where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost. They remind us that freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. You and I must protect and preserve freedom here or it will not be passed on to our children and it would disappear everywhere in the world. Today the workers in Poland are showing a new generation how high is the price of freedom but also how much it is worth that price."`
After his election, and less than month after firing the air-traffic controllers, Reagan didn't back down from his support of organized labor. In a speech at a trade union gathering in Chicago in September 1981, he said,

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Collective bargaining in the years since has played a major role in America’s economic miracle. Unions represent some of the freest institutions in this land. There are few finer examples of participatory democracy to be found anywhere. Too often, discussion about the labor movement concentrates on disputes, corruption, and strikes. But while these things are headlines, there are thousands of good agreements reached and put into practice every year without a hitch.
9/1/1980 Speech
Reagan also promised that despite tough economic times, he would "not fight inflation by attacking the sacred right of American workers to negotiate their wages. We propose to control government, not people."

Well that was a big fat furry-with-cat-litter-sprinkles lie, wa' 'n't it Mr. Ronnie?
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He was speaking about private sector unions; not public...
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He was speaking about private sector unions; not public...
Where is that distinction in his commentary?
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Strikes against communist regimes = freedom, good

Strikes against republican regimes = thuggery, bad
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Oh bull**** you just made that up.
Just as you are.

#1 He wasn't talking about America

#2 He never mentions public unions

#3 Public unions were already banned by Carter before him and he never once said that was wrong

What a shocker we find far left nutballs trying to bastardize the words of someone else in a failed attempt at victory.

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Just as you are.

#1 He wasn't talking about America

#2 He never mentions public unions

#3 Public unions were already banned by Carter before him and he never once said that was wrong

What a shocker we find far left nutballs trying to bastardize the words of someone else in a failed attempt at victory.

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Collective Bargaining is the corner stone of essentially all federal employees with a few exemptions such as the military. Look up NTEU and AFGE.

You have no clue what you are talking about. Even groups of Administrative Law Judges and essentially all lawyers and doctors are organized. As are the tens of thousands of other groups of federal employees totaling more than a million.
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Collective Bargaining is the corner stone of essentially all federal employees with a few exemptions such as the military. Look up NTEU and AFGE.

You have no clue what you are talking about. Even groups of Administrative Law Judges and essentially all lawyers and doctors are organized. As are the tens of thousands of other groups of federal employees totaling more than a million.
We know how efficient the Federal Government is don't we.
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Collective Bargaining is the corner stone of essentially all federal employees with a few exemptions such as the military. Look up NTEU and AFGE.
Pssst...

You're wrong...

I'll even use a Lefty site to show you...



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We turned first to the American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) which represents 600,000 federal government workers in 65 agencies, including the Department of Defense, Veterans Affairs, Social Security, and the Environmental Protection Agency. It is the largest federal employee union.

It's true, said Beth Moten, legislative and political director for AFGE, that most federal employees don't have collective bargaining rights over pay and benefits.
Just because they HAVE federal unions doesn't mean the have the same rules an NON-federal unions...
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Collective Bargaining is the corner stone of essentially all federal employees with a few exemptions such as the military. Look up NTEU and AFGE.

You have no clue what you are talking about. Even groups of Administrative Law Judges and essentially all lawyers and doctors are organized. As are the tens of thousands of other groups of federal employees totaling more than a million.
You wish to embarrass yourself? Not a problem.

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