Moral myopia at Ground Zero - Page 11

saltwn · #**101** (**permalink**) 09-11-2010, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jlarsen

Accidents happen.

bad form, old man.

jamesrage · #**102** (**permalink**) 09-11-2010, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by talloulou

It would be easy enough for them to recognize and show an ounce of decency and concern for the raw feelings involved and moving it a little further away out of respect would go a long way. But, nope, they got to have it right there. They know most New Yorkers don't want it there and they also know most New Yorkers wouldn't mind it anywhere else. So all that makes their stated intentions of "building bridges, unity, and peace" rather suspect.

They shouldn't have to consider the feelings of anyone because of the fact they had nothing to do with 9-11.If New Yorkers want to get pissed then **** them, having a terrorist attack doesn't give them the right to pin it on all muslims. This is like liberals pissing and moaning for the NRA to move its meeting after the columbine shooting.

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Plain and simple it's a victory mosque and its erection symbolizes a triumph of Islam over the Western world.

There is no evidence of this. What they were going to name it after a mosque they lost centuries ago after spending centuries renovating a catholic church they bought? Is there is some video of these people jumping up and down for joy during the 9-11 attacks or some video of the mosque builders saying they are purposely building the mosque to piss on the 9-11 victims?

talloulou · #**103** (**permalink**) 09-11-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesrage

They shouldn't have to consider the feelings of anyone because of the fact they had nothing to do with 9-11.If New Yorkers want to get pissed then **** them, having a terrorist attack doesn't give them the right to pin it on all muslims. This is like liberals pissing and moaning for the NRA to move its meeting after the columbine shooting.

There is no evidence of this. What they were going to name it after a mosque they lost centuries ago after spending centuries renovating a catholic church they bought? Is there is some video of these people jumping up and down for joy during the 9-11 attacks or some video of the mosque builders saying they are purposely building the mosque to piss on the 9-11 victims?

There is ample evidence from the insistence that it must be built right there despite folks going out of their way to explain that they would welcome it most anywhere else to veiled threats that it must be there or we will pay the price of moving it.

Of course they are intending to piss on the victims. If they had any real interest in peace, healing, and unity they would move it. They would be viewed as heroes and true men of peace.

talloulou · #**104** (**permalink**) 09-11-2010, 12:56 PM

Also while not all Muslims are violent Muslim leaders have a definite responsibility to speak out against the radicals and take back the reigns of their religion which they claim has been hijacked.

Threatening the American public and telling us we can't move it or the radicals will go nuts joins the radicals and so called moderates at the hip in my view.

jamesrage · #**105** (**permalink**) 09-12-2010, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by talloulou

There is ample evidence from the insistence that it must be built right there despite folks going out of their way to explain that they would welcome it most anywhere else to veiled threats that it must be there or we will pay the price of moving it.

Of course they are intending to piss on the victims.

Do you have any actual evidence to support this claim? Just because someone may be prejudice against an entire religion does not mean people in that religion are building something just to piss off those prejudice people.

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If they had any real interest in peace, healing, and unity they would move it. They would be viewed as heroes and true men of peace

So Catholics should not build churches near day cares, elementary schools and Chuck E. Cheeses just because a handful of priests molested some kids?

GottaGo · #**106** (**permalink**) 09-12-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Billo_Really

If a 4 year old girl came up to you and said, "I'm gonna kick your ass!", would you take that seriously?

You're trying to say a religion (how people worship), is a threat.

That 4 year old girl comment? Depends on what country I'm in. If it is a predominently Muslim country, then yes, I would take it quite seriously.

Because they believe it is OK to sacrifice children in the name of Allah, if it kills more infidels.

A religion is a threat if it says to kill all those that do not believe as they do. Even Christianity promoted this for a while, many centuries ago. But in the years of evolution, at least Christianity outgrew the blood lust. There are many followers of Allah who have not.

Billo_Really · #**107** (**permalink**) 09-16-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GottaGo

That 4 year old girl comment? Depends on what country I'm in. If it is a predominently Muslim country, then yes, I would take it quite seriously.

This country in a fist fight.

What's your answer now?

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Originally Posted by GottaGo

Because they believe it is OK to sacrifice children in the name of Allah, if it kills more infidels.

You are so FOS!

I notice you don't say anything about us sacrificing 18 year old children to fight our corporate wars?

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Originally Posted by GottaGo

A religion is a threat if it says to kill all those that do not believe as they do. Even Christianity promoted this for a while, many centuries ago. But in the years of evolution, at least Christianity outgrew the blood lust. There are many followers of Allah who have not.

Yet it is our country that is invading theirs and killing them.

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