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Old 11-25-2009, 05:05 PM
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That does not answer the question. By what authority do they stage this stuff. And who are they?
By the authority of the base commander, a two star at Fort Bragg, I'm sure.
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I see cnredd's point. If this was Obama (before presidency) going there to sell his book and the media was limited by the military, the left would be raising the same question.

The difference is that if I posted the OP here from the left side regarding the scenario above, the right would question my patriotism...ask me why I hate my country...tell me that I should respect the military's decision because they are the ones out on the front lines putting everything on the line for us, the American people.
Obama wouldn't be so stupid as to start campaigning four years early, and I doubt he could ever become so entirely self serving as this...person Palin.
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He was already undergoing "due process". Never ever before in History has anyone been picked up on a foreign battlefield, imprisoned for years, and then brought to America for a civilian trial. It is AGAINST the Geneva Convention to do so.
He WAS ON TRIAL...Obama stopped it and is now wasting time, money, and resources for political positioning. In order to get relief from those hounding him for breaking his UNREALISTIC promises he is "perhaps" gonna get the FIRST trial started somewhere near the time he said he would have them ALL done. January. How old is KSM? I need to figure out if its a good bet whether he dies of old age before his execution. Never mind....how much do you want to bet?
Never before has there been a war against a non-nation. Your plea to history is a fallacy.
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Obama wouldn't be so stupid as to start campaigning four years early, and I doubt he could ever become so entirely self serving as this...person Palin.
I think I hit the nail on the head with her. She is a permanent victim. In fact the whole party is either paranoids or victims or anti U.S. government. Listen closely to her speeches. Or any of them and their speeches. Cheney leads the pack. So does Glen Beck. Its all about fear.

It works for them. But its so transparent anyone who actually looks at it can see it.
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Why is Palin going to a military installation to do a book signing?
I want soberness at my military installations, thank you.

She's not a servant of the people going to greet the troops, she's just trying to promote a book.
What would happen if I tried to sell a book at a military base.
Just asking, is this normal?
Because they sell the book at the PX.
Along with MANY others....yes even yours.
Reading is duh.....normal for literate people.
Almost ANYBODY is allowed to be a "guest" on bases.
Soberness? Much alcohol is sold on bases.
Recreation IS a PRESCRIBED activity.
What you think maybe no movies either?
What about USO shows?
Come on ya'll get real.
Next you'll want separation of Church and military.
Soldiers are people too.
Many bases are small cities. Repeat it out loud.
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I think the difference is that now we're at a war which we the American people have stated there is probably no end to.
So with the legal limbo that we put the "detainees" into, trying to invoke "war-time" standards, we've just established an INDEFINITE holding period.

With the WTC bombing, a crime was committed.
We recognized the importance of a trial.
We acted upon it.

In today's world, it seems the point of the trial is just lost on some people.
What's worse, JUDICIAL REVIEW of the detainees is just plain lost on some people.
Our entire system of government is built on checks and balances. Often to preserve human and civil rights.
Our founding father documents talked about rights which "are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights".

I guess on one level, I think it's hilarious (dark humor sort of way) that we talk about "military tribunals", and then these detainees STILL NEVER SEE a trial...
Our government has insisted on setting up a situation of allowing themselves secret justice, and then they do not even apply it...
Simple logic for simple minds.
A crime is not an act of war.
Therefore an act of war is NOT a crime.

Every DETAINEE has had JUDICIAL REVIEW. WE're down to less than 300 from around 2000 that have "passed through". A high percentage of those released have a recidivism problem.

Duh Even Obama admits that he will be unable to try all of the prisoners and that some of those are also unreleasable. Plus he STOPPED tribunals in progress.
It is the IGNORANCE of changing what was WORKING for political BS that is wrong. I am still waiting for a reasoned argument as to WHY "these guys" are getting civilian trials in NEW YORK CITY. There will soon be a massive protest in NYC to prove how stupid this idea is.
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Again, Why the special treatment for her? And by what authority?
Duh....She visited troops in Iraq too.
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Obama wouldn't be so stupid as to start campaigning four years early, and I doubt he could ever become so entirely self serving as this...person Palin.
4 years and 4 months. Democratic convention 2004.

And he is campaigning STILL.
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Never before has there been a war against a non-nation. Your plea to history is a fallacy.
WRONG!

The marines were formed specifically to fight MUSLIM PIRATES off the coast (no nation). Speaking of MARINES.

Where do you suppose they got the nickname "leathernecks"?

Answer deliberately delayed.
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