How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow - Page 4

Michael1 · #31 (**permalink**) 11-15-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

Exactly!

Obama has drawn respect all over the world with the exception of our enemies and extremists.
Maybe he knows something you don't about human relationships?

Respect?

I think what you perceive as respect others perceive as weakness.

Did you miss the entire thread where the EUROPEANS are the ones complaining about his narcissism? That certainly doesn't sound like respect to me...

saltwn · #32 (**permalink**) 11-15-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael1

Respect?

I think what you perceive as respect others perceive as weakness.

Did you miss the entire thread where the EUROPEANS are the ones complaining about his narcissism? That certainly doesn't sound like respect to me...

How can you maintain a person is narcissistic and in the same breath make the claim he is not proud enough?

Mikeyy · #33 (**permalink**) 11-15-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MrLiberty

Oh and Mikeyy the blind guy really doesn't need sunglasses all the time.....

Reporter who wore sunglasses while asking President question today is not blind

and this article shows that the reporter in question wasn't offended....

Hot Air Blog Archive Stupid controversy of the day: Bush and the “blind” reporter (Update: Bush apologizes to reporter)

Of course don't let the facts get in the way of your bashing Bush when the thread is about the embarrassment we now have in the Oval Office!

What about the other two examples? Who attacked us on 9=11? Saudis. Who did bush kiss and hold hands with? Now I really don't mind that Bush did that. It is the norm for that relationship. So I truly don't care that he did between you and I. But I simply wish you guys would give it a break now and then. I don't mind that you don't like Obamas policies etc. but we don't need to get all anti Obama over every tiny little thing someone does. Even though iopposed Bush's policies when left wing commentators would nitpick some of the stuff Bush did I just found it piling on for partisan sake. I had to turn off Air America and things because I just thought the anti Bush stuff was getting stupid and hateful. Same as I do this crud.

off the porch · #34 (**permalink**) 11-15-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

Sounds to me as if both these great men have humility, something hard to find today.

Obama was being deferential to the hosting country's customs.

I guess some ignorant *******s would have him ride up there on a mustang and wipe the **** off his boots on the Empress's carpet.

Oh Ye of the small mind.

I agree with you. This is just the bitch de jour by Obama-haters...

Sulayman · #35 (**permalink**) 11-15-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

How can you maintain a person is narcissistic and in the same breath make the claim he is not proud enough?

You are making a catagory error.

Its not that Obama is not proud of himself, he is much too proud of himself as his haughty manner reveals. His problem is that he is not proud of his country. This is the problem that the other side is seeing with him and his incesant humiliating bows and unneeded and unasked for apologies. His wife also has this problem as she unwittingly revealed when she wa quoted as saying "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country" at some function.

saltwn · #36 (**permalink**) 11-15-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sulayman

You are making a catagory error.

Its not that Obama is not proud of himself, he is much too proud of himself as his haughty manner reveals. His problem is that he is not proud of his country. This is the problem that the other side is seeing with him and his incesant humiliating bows and unneeded and unasked for apologies. His wife also has this problem as she unwittingly revealed when she wa quoted as saying "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country" at some function.

You know I see the guy as kinda laid back psychologically speaking. I don't know where you people get he's narcissistic. Maybe a wee bit of jealousy going on there?
Or utter shock that even a house nigga would take on such airs?
Which is it?

hairballxavier · #37 (**permalink**) 11-16-2009, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

You know I see the guy as kinda laid back psychologically speaking. I don't know where you people get he's narcissistic.

He wrote 2 autobiographical books before he was 45.

cnredd · #38 (**permalink**) 11-16-2009, 05:20 AM

This piece has a GREAT point...

For those who say Obama was "just doing what the local customs demand", then why wasn't the bow returned...And why didn't OTHER leaders from the same area that have these "local customs" NOT bow?....

Of course, the logical answer is "Because they don't appease or wish to be subserviant"...

46 handshakes, one bow

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It didn’t take too long for the Left to defend Barack Obama’s bow to Emperor Akihito yesterday by claiming that the President was merely showing cultural sensitivity to the Japanese emperor by deeply bowing. There’s a couple of problems with that argument. First, American Presidents do not bow to monarchs, or at least they didn’t through the first 43 Presidents and the 220 years they served as the US head of state. Perhaps a few of them might have done so out of cultural sensitivity when traveling to foreign nations as private citizens, either before or after their terms in office, but not when they represented the United States of America. Even the New York Times knew better than that in 1994.

For those arguing that such a policy merely propagates American arrogance and that Obama wants to “change perceptions,” this video by the UConn College Republicans points out the second problem. Heads of state do not bow and show obeisance to one another, regardless of whether either one is an American President. The UConn group reviews 47 different greetings to Emperor Akihito and various heads of state, including a few from fellow Pacific Rim countries with similar cultural sensitivities, and doesn’t find a bow among them:

YouTube- Obama Bows to Japanese Emperor Akihito

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I can’t wait to see the Left chastising these world leaders for their cultural insensitivity. They’d better include Akihito in that condemnation, too. As yesterday’s video clearly showed, Akihito knew better than to return Obama’s bow.

Mikeyy · #39 (**permalink**) 11-16-2009, 05:34 AM

guess cnredd missed what I just said.

saltwn · #40 (**permalink**) 11-16-2009, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

What about the other two examples? Who attacked us on 9=11? Saudis. Who did bush kiss and hold hands with? Now I really don't mind that Bush did that. It is the norm for that relationship. So I truly don't care that he did between you and I. But I simply wish you guys would give it a break now and then. I don't mind that you don't like Obamas policies etc. but we don't need to get all anti Obama over every tiny little thing someone does. Even though iopposed Bush's policies when left wing commentators would nitpick some of the stuff Bush did I just found it piling on for partisan sake. I had to turn off Air America and things because I just thought the anti Bush stuff was getting stupid and hateful. Same as I do this crud.

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

guess cnredd missed what I just said.

Yes he probably did.
I think this whole argument is soooooooooo silly.
But Repubs are blogging their arses off about it all over the country.

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