I really hate it when you inbed your comments into my post, which requires me to copy and paste those back into your comments if I choose to rebut them.
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Why should the government offer its own "insurance policy"?
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It's not an insurance "policy", it is an insurance "option". One that forces "for-profit" insurance companies to make their rates more competitive.
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More than 60% of insurance companies are already NON-PROFIT as well as hospitals.
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Prove it!
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To increase competition all that is necessary is to ALLOW it instead of outlawing it as is currently done.
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They are not out-lawing anything.
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And we should be allowed to purchase fire and flood insurance after the fact and car insurance after the accident too. If you already had insurance there could be NO precondition.
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People are having their insurance canceled because of pre-conditions. 8 states allow insurance companies to cancel policies of battered wives because that is a legal pre-condition.
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Make up your mind do you want free society or free health care?
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Neither one is free.
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Defense is less than 20% of the fed budget and IS the CONSTITUTIONALLY REQUIRED part.
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Not the amount. We don't have to spend 66% money than China to fund our defense.
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How do you suppose they get the billions of dollars necessary for the research and development of new drugs?
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The current health care system costs 2/3's of our annual GNP.
All that money does not go to R&D.
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They are going BANKRUPT already not even including the half a trillion that will be "cut" from them for this plan
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The current system is the No.1 reason for filed bankruptcies in America.
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In the fields of healthcare where the government and the insurance companies are not involved the costs have dropped 75% in the last ten years. Lasik and cosmetic.
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Where's your link that backs that up?
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I remember when the WSJ was respected as a credible media outlet, before it wasn't poisoned by Rupert Murdoch's propaganda machine.
The article is nothing more than innuendo and disinformation. It doesn't give one specific example of a contradiction.
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Which is the best argument to repeat that success for those between 18 and 65.
Your own link provides proof of that...
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Everybody over 65 has excellent healthcare coverage, for which many beneficiaries pay much less than they cost. Every child under age 18 has guaranteed healthcare coverage too.
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Why would the public option be any different?
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I can't believe you would interject Pumpkin-head in this debate, but since you did...
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And when the rational among us say, "It's impossible to do this. The idea we'll destroy the best food delivery system in the world," the people that say that then are criticized, mocked and vilified.
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We are not destroying anything! We are using the inherent properties of capitolism to fix a dangerous problem in our society. In Boss Limbaugh's analogy, we are making the "food delivery system" prices more competitive.
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That idiot is so whack, I only have time to correct this one item...
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President Obama has also declared emphatically that he will not interfere in the internal affairs of other nations-- while telling the Israelis where they can and cannot build settlements...
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Those settlements are not internal to Israel, they are on another nations' land.
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It doesn't take that much intelligence! You don't really set the bar all that high.
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Two claims are made all the time in the health care debate: 1) that there is little competition among those providing health insurance and 2) that it is important to take the profit motive out of providing health insurance. Both are myths. It turns out that claims about too little competition are based on a misinterpretation of the data and that non-profit insurers are so abundant that the largest insurer in virtually every state is a non-profit.
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The "profit motive" is not being taken out, it is being competed with. And trying to manipulate the numbers to infer that payroll deductions for health insurance constitute a "non-profit" health care company completely separate from the parent provider, is non-sense. People don't cancel their own policy due to "existing pre-conditions".
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Now if you can find ANY untruths or misleading information in ANY of these articles please bring them to my attention because I do so want all the healthy working people competing with me when I get my healthcare provided to me for free by my government now that I am disabled and can't buy my own. Actually I am not on disability yet it takes quite a while to get it....I am still using healthcare my wife pays for from her workplace.
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No free rides and see above for misleading information.
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Like it? I feel like I'm being punished for crimes I didn't commit. Your links suck! They have so much advertising and pop-ups, that it took an extra hour out of my important day to respond to this garbage.
You owe me $4.50 +tax!
As far as that Sowell lunatic...
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He tried to rush Congress into passing a massive government takeover of the nation's medical care before the August recess
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What a bull**** lie!
There is no takeover of anything.
If you have to lie to make your point, then you don't have a point to make.
10-04-2009, 11:03 AM
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