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Old 07-14-2022, 06:20 PM
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Well, we have been supplying Ukraine with Stingers, Javelins, and other other weapons of war.

So what is the fundamental difference in principle here?

(That is, unless you believe that the US is okay if it just helps Ukraine to lose more slowly.)
We shouldn't be helping Ukraine at all. Its not our business.

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Fair question.

But we should communicate to the Russian leaders--unequivocally!--that if the US is struck by a nuclear weapon of unknown origin, we will just assume that Russia is behind it--and respond accordingly.
So you want thousands or perhaps millions of American lives lost over a war with Russia over country that is not beneficial to us.
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The US should keep its nose out of Ukraine, period. We have no business in Ukraine. It makes one wonder why this administration is so invested in this debacle. Perhaps they are worried that if Ukraine falls to Russia, some more of Biden's secrets and shady deals will come to light.
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So you want thousands or perhaps millions of American lives lost over a war with Russia over country that is not beneficial to us.
If Russia were so foolish as to nuke the US, I believe we should respond accordingly--as I stated.

As I also stated, however, I believe that the chances of Russia's initiating a war with the US are exceedingly slim--probably considerably less than one percent.

So please do not pretend that I think the chances of war with Russia are substantial. I do not.
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Specifically what weapons are suggested to enable the Ukrainians to win? Do we deploy American advisors to show them how to operate the wonder weapons? Are the Ukrainians going to pay for these weapons? We are sending them $60 billion in aid they could give a rebate to good old Uncle Sucker.

Wonder why the Ukraine isn't such a hot topic for the media anymore? After the initial failures Putin did what Biden won't do after the Afghanistan debacle, he fired the incompetent generals responsible for the botched invasion. The new leadership has refocused the war effort and concentrated forces resulting in the Ukrainians having to go on the defense. Bluntly, the Ukrainians are losing.

But hey, it's doubtful the successful Russian generals know or even care about "white rage" so they fail Biden’s most important criteria.
agreed except republican and democrat politicians would love a war.
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