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Old 05-24-2022, 11:57 PM
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Another nutcase tries to make himself famous...

Gunman kills 19 children in Texas school rampage

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An 18-year-old gunman opened fire Tuesday at a Texas elementary school, killing at least 19 children as he went from classroom to classroom, officials said, in the deadliest school shooting in nearly a decade and the latest gruesome moment for a country scarred by a string of massacres. The attacker was killed by law enforcement.

The death toll also included two adults, authorities said. Gov. Greg Abbott said one of the two was a teacher.

The assault at Robb Elementary School in the heavily Latino town of Uvalde was the deadliest shooting at a U.S. grade school since a gunman killed 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut, in December 2012.

Hours after the attack, families were still awaiting word on their children.

Outside the town civic center, where families were told to gather, the silence was broken repeatedly by screams and wailing. “No! Please, no!” one man yelled as he embraced another man.
If it hasn't been done already (and I'm sure it has) the Left will politicize this in one of multiple ways...

If the kid had any writings on conservatism, every conservative is guilty...

If there are no writings, they will make some up accusing conservatives...

If there were any writings on liberalism, the gun will be guilty...

...but make no mistake...mental health will NOT be the forefront of the narrative...It will be "How can I twist this and use death to be politically advantageous?...
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Old 05-25-2022, 12:55 AM
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The dumbest thing any school can do is to lock down the students, without a single trained armed person ready to blast the shooter at first sight. I heard some idiot on the news declaring there would be too many guns in the schools, something that does not seem to bother psychos who attack a school.
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The dumbest thing any school can do is to lock down the students, without a single trained armed person ready to blast the shooter at first sight. I heard some idiot on the news declaring there would be too many guns in the schools, something that does not seem to bother psychos who attack a school.
The killer encountered and got through multiple armed law enforcement personnel to get into the building. The problem is the ready availability of personal weapons of mass murder. That has to end.
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Old 05-25-2022, 08:15 AM
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The killer encountered and got through multiple armed law enforcement personnel to get into the building. The problem is the ready availability of personal weapons of mass murder. That has to end.
I'm betting those armed law enforcement personnel wore uniforms, and had a firearm in plain sight of anybody. The ready availability of weapons (never mind your bullshlt "mass murder" reference), or the lack thereof, will not deter a psycho intent on causing mayhem.
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I'm betting those armed law enforcement personnel wore uniforms, and had a firearm in plain sight of anybody. The ready availability of weapons (never mind your bullshlt "mass murder" reference), or the lack thereof, will not deter a psycho intent on causing mayhem.
Every country has "psychos," but only the US has the number and frequency of these sorts of mass killings. The problem is the ready availability of guns. We need to make it much, much harder for people to buy guns.
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Every country has "psychos," but only the US has the number and frequency of these sorts of mass killings. The problem is the ready availability of guns. We need to make it much, much harder for people to buy guns.
There are people who believe the lack of a certain weapon will deter a psycho from killing.

Going by that "suggestion" of yours, we need also to make it much, much harder for psychos to get their hands on everyday materials used in bomb making. Knives, sticks, screwdrivers, hammers, bows and arrows, spears, fart guns, you name it.
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The killer encountered and got through multiple armed law enforcement personnel to get into the building. The problem is the ready availability of personal weapons of mass murder. That has to end.
I think you're right about everything you said, but it's impossible to carry out the gun-controlling/banning/reform in the US.

Half of Americans thought they could accept the 20 dead in the Sandy Hook Elementary school in 2012, which means this shooting wouldn't be avoided.

On being faced with this sort of mass shooting, the left said that they would have to do something but in fact do nothing instead, because whatever they were going to do, they were bound to stir the popularity of voting of the right up.

And what the right politicians said would be nothing but prayed for the dead and threatened the electors that their guns would be taken away by Biden if they weren't going to vote.

You see, it is an endless dead loop which seemed not to be able to be broken.

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Every country has "psychos," but only the US has the number and frequency of these sorts of mass killings.

I doubt those other countries sit there and talk about these mass murderers for weeks on end.Perhaps the media should quit glorifying mass murderers.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/mas...cycle-n1039136

As research suggests that violence, particularly gun carnage, can be contagious, some experts are calling for an end to blanket media coverage of mass shootings, saying it can provide potential shooters with a chance of fame, scorecards with which to compare one another and even blueprints for carrying out attacks.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5296697/
Recently a contagion effect, similar to a “copycat” effect, has been suggested in mass shootings. This effect suggests that behaviors can be “contagious” and spread across a population. In the example of mass shootings, a contagion effect would be said to exist if a single mass shooting incident increased the likelihood of other instances of mass shootings in the near future. Contagion has been documented across a variety of other behaviors, including airplane hijackings,2 smoking cessation,3 and binge eating,4 and has been well researched in relation to suicide.5,6 There is now evidence that when a mass shooting occurs, there is a temporary increase in the probability of another event within the next 13 days on average.7

https://www.dontnamethem.org/

The Don't Name Them campaign encourages media, law enforcement and public information officers to move their focus from the shooters/attackers to the victims and heroes.



But why?



Take this quick test --

Do you remember the University of Texas Tower Shooting in Austin, Texas in 1966?

How about the Columbine High School Shooting in Littleton, Colorado in 1999?

Virginia Tech Shooting in Blacksburg, Virginia in 2007?

Or the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, Connecticut in 2012?


Can you name the shooter(s) in any of these instances?


In any group we speak with, someone can name the shooters.
But few, if any, can name even one of the victims - or the heroes who stopped the killings.

The University of Texas Tower - Austin, TX

Some shooters/attackers are motivated by a desire for fame, notoriety, and/or recognition. When the media focuses on the suspect, they provide this fame, notoriety and recognition. Time and again, families of victims have plead with media to stop sensationalizing the names of the shooters. In many cases, their voices are heard.





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The problem is the ready availability of guns. We need to make it much, much harder for people to buy guns.
Countries that banned guns did not really see a reduction of murders and mass murders. The only thing a gun ban did in those countries was change the weapon used to murder people. The UK and Australia still has the same amount of murders and mass murders they did before they banned guns.
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The killer encountered and got through multiple armed law enforcement personnel to get into the building. The problem is the ready availability of personal weapons of mass murder. That has to end.
I would like to see harsh penalties for the people that do this kind of stuff.

I'm not talking jail or lethal injection, I'm talking about brutal/barbaric penalties that would send a message.
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I would like to see harsh penalties for the people that do this kind of stuff.

I'm not talking jail or lethal injection, I'm talking about brutal/barbaric penalties that would send a message.


Impale the SOBs. Place a full length mirror in front of them so they can see themselves squirm.
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