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Old 01-22-2022, 01:59 PM
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The people protesting had a permit through the actions of one small group...That does NOT mean the protesters KNEW that small group or their beliefs...

You keep saying you're a lawyer, but I'm guessing Olympic hurdler with the jumping to conclusions......
If you show up to a rally with good intentions, only to find that everyone there is a torch-carrying neo-nazi chanting anti-Semitic hatred, you either leave or you are complicit in the hatred and bigotry.
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If you show up to a rally with good intentions, only to find that everyone there is a torch-carrying neo-nazi chanting anti-Semitic hatred, you either leave or you are complicit in the hatred and bigotry.
The people you refer to are people AT NIGHT...NOT during the day, when the peaceful protesters assembled...And for some reason, you assume that everyone peacefully protesting knew what people with tiki torches were doing and chanting every second of the day...

It amazing really...The Left LOOOOOOOOVES to say that BLM were a bunch of peaceful protests, and radicals like Antifa ONLY showed up AFTER the peaceful protests, and shouldn't be representative of the protest as a whole...

So the other side should be afforded that same consideration, correct?

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the o.p. was about two quotes from two different politicians from different sides of the aisle and the reaction to them. and neither one of them had anything to do with trump. and while race may have played a part in those quotes and my commentary; i did not see either quote as overtly racist. these are two older white gentlemen from an older generation whose lifespan began in a much different era. this is not to say they are racist but it is not uncommon for older folks to revert to a thinking that mentally separates those who are different from them. so rather than just accuse someone calling others racist maybe take the time to consider why obvious "misspoken" phrases happen in the first place. it's easy to point at the other side and claim some sort of mental incapabilities or racism. but it seems too uncomfortable for some to recognize it on their own side. people don't just simply misspeak. there is a reason for their lapse in basic communication. and that should be noted and addressed. and we need to stop making excuses for "misspeaking" when it's from our side of the aisle and admit it's time to move on from some of these politicians who are clearly past their cognitive prime.
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the o.p. was about two quotes from two different politicians from different sides of the aisle and the reaction to them. and neither one of them had anything to do with trump. and while race may have played a part in those quotes and my commentary; i did not see either quote as overtly racist. these are two older white gentlemen from an older generation whose lifespan began in a much different era. this is not to say they are racist but it is not uncommon for older folks to revert to a thinking that mentally separates those who are different from them. so rather than just accuse someone calling others racist maybe take the time to consider why obvious "misspoken" phrases happen in the first place. it's easy to point at the other side and claim some sort of mental incapabilities or racism. but it seems too uncomfortable for some to recognize it on their own side. people don't just simply misspeak. there is a reason for their lapse in basic communication. and that should be noted and addressed. and we need to stop making excuses for "misspeaking" when it's from our side of the aisle and admit it's time to move on from some of these politicians who are clearly past their cognitive prime.
Apologies...

I was only responding to the last post and not looking at the big picture of the thread...

Although I should've known that there's a 97% chance that a CS post attacking Trump would have nothing to do with the topic of the thread...
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Apologies...

I was only responding to the last post and not looking at the big picture of the thread...

Although I should've known that there's a 97% chance that a CS post attacking Trump would have nothing to do with the topic of the thread...
i know it's easy to get sucked in.
it happens.
i am currently trying hard not to respond in another post about a sidebar topic that has already been off the o.p. topic.
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"...African American voters are voting in just as high a percentage as Americans..." - mitch mcconnell

"...poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids..." - joe biden

two old white guys saying old white guy things. but i'm sure one is worse than the other. and that is likely dependent on which side of the aisle you fall on. for the rest of us it shows how out of touch these political relics are and should indicate they have no business being elected to any public office. and those who vote for them are to blame.
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the o.p. was about two quotes from two different politicians from different sides of the aisle and the reaction to them. and neither one of them had anything to do with trump. and while race may have played a part in those quotes and my commentary; i did not see either quote as overtly racist. these are two older white gentlemen from an older generation whose lifespan began in a much different era. this is not to say they are racist but it is not uncommon for older folks to revert to a thinking that mentally separates those who are different from them. so rather than just accuse someone calling others racist maybe take the time to consider why obvious "misspoken" phrases happen in the first place. it's easy to point at the other side and claim some sort of mental incapabilities or racism. but it seems too uncomfortable for some to recognize it on their own side. people don't just simply misspeak. there is a reason for their lapse in basic communication. and that should be noted and addressed. and we need to stop making excuses for "misspeaking" when it's from our side of the aisle and admit it's time to move on from some of these politicians who are clearly past their cognitive prime.
If you could take Joe Biden's quote as a single instance of him saying something that on the outside seems to imply a bias against African Americans, I can agree with what you are saying.

However, Biden has had a long history of saying things about African Americans that are demeaning and very racists.
  • “unlike the African American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly different attitudes about different things.”
  • "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
  • "In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking."
  • He also referred to attempts to desegregate schools would cause his children to grow up in a racial jungle.

You put that together with his close associations with known segregationists in the Senate, you get a clearer picture of the type of person Biden really is.
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Apologies...

I was only responding to the last post and not looking at the big picture of the thread...

Although I should've known that there's a 97% chance that a CS post attacking Trump would have nothing to do with the topic of the thread...
If you go back and read the thread, you’ll see that I wasn’t the one who first brought up the whitewashing of Trump’s Charlottesville quote.
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If you show up to a rally with good intentions, only to find that everyone there is a torch-carrying neo-nazi chanting anti-Semitic hatred, you either leave or you are complicit in the hatred and bigotry.
So that means that the peaceful protestors in 2020 across the country were really all a bunch of Looting Arsonists, bent on the destruction of cities across the nation.

Thank you for pointing that out, I didn't realize it until now.
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