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NOPE! It was the government mandated technology failed.

And I did look it up
Texas officials didn’t require energy infrastructure to be upgraded to withstand freezing temperatures, despite similar problems during past cold spells. They allowed homes to be built to standards that leak too much heat. And they chose to operate their electric grid in isolation from the rest of the country, a decision that Times columnist Michael Hiltzik doesn’t think was wise.
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all things regulators with authority could have prevented.
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The danger that extreme cold posed to the grid was first presented to lawmakers in 2011, in a 357-page report by federal regulators. Yet lawmakers didn’t mandate any of the changes because they didn’t want to interfere in the markets or discomfit any campaign contributors. Similarly, state leaders have refused to require generating reserves in case of emergency, choosing to let private actors alone set the demands for generating capacity
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Texas' energy problems are a result of privatization and deregulation in the areas where this happened. You must know that. If you don't look it up.
Another crap comeback. What exactly does that have to do with the piece of shlt wind power during the freeze?

Going back to the wood chips to keep England warm, is there something wrong with coal?

I expect another stupid answer, but go ahead and give it a shot.
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The danger that extreme cold posed to the grid was first presented to lawmakers in 2011, in a 357-page report by federal regulators. Yet lawmakers didn’t mandate any of the changes because they didn’t want to interfere in the markets or discomfit any campaign contributors. Similarly, state leaders have refused to require generating reserves in case of emergency, choosing to let private actors alone set the demands for generating capacity
https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-po...he-texas-grid/
So, what I said is true. The government that mandated green energy did not properly regulate the industry changes they forced on the private sector.

Why is it that you refuse to understand that?
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So, what I said is true. The government that mandated green energy did not properly regulate the industry changes they forced on the private sector.

Why is it that you refuse to understand that?
You need to discard the limitations of common sense to understand Marxist Democrat doublespeak. Texas utility regulators didn't force ratepayers to pay for green energy turbines capable of withstanding a once in a century cold snap. That is negligence. California regulators didn't anticipate the impact of sunset on their solar generation arrays. They are dedicated public servants. Guess which political party dominates in each state and you'll predict the lunatic demogoguery.

BTW Texas has backup natural gas fired generation capacity. The cold was so severe they failed too. No doubt the California state government will pass a new law requiring the sun to shine 24/7 on their solar arrays. Noncompliance will be blamed on anti science Republicans as the blackouts and brownouts continue.
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But they didn't!!!!


Geez

Regulators are appointed with powers to do the right thing. But most of them are political appointees with little if any knowledge of the job to which they are enshrined. Politicians are good an engineering election results but not so much on power grids. It's why the Government should stay away from "engineering" power grids and social matters.
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You need to discard the limitations of common sense to understand Marxist Democrat doublespeak. Texas utility regulators didn't force ratepayers to pay for green energy turbines capable of withstanding a once in a century cold snap. That is negligence. California regulators didn't anticipate the impact of sunset on their solar generation arrays. They are dedicated public servants. Guess which political party dominates in each state and you'll predict the lunatic demogoguery.

BTW Texas has backup natural gas fired generation capacity. The cold was so severe they failed too. No doubt the California state government will pass a new law requiring the sun to shine 24/7 on their solar arrays. Noncompliance will be blamed on anti science Republicans as the blackouts and brownouts continue.
California had Civil Engineers who know hopw to build roads and bridges to withstand the once in a century magnitude level 7 earthquakes. But regulators didn't want to pay for that. We know what was the result of that stupidity why should solar arays be handled any diffeently.

Subsequently Elected Government officials, can always blame their predecessors or others for when the SHTF. But the depts that regulate should not get off the hook.

Ever!

And blaming the guy, or company, that built what he was told they could build,,,, is a copout.
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If my local building codes, or worse the paid off inspector, allow a 2X4 joist to span 6 feet on a deck, then after the collapse, do I get the blame for not using 2x8's?

YES. SHOULDN'T THE BLAME ALSO FALL ON THE REGULATORS? After all, are they not empowered to assure public safety?

Who were the "regulators" in the case of the OP? Not named, yet they allowed this disaster to fall on the inhabitants.

Blame the company providing the wood chips? Yes. But, who gave them operational permits?

What political body, of official regulator body, saw the problem and did nothing?
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So, what I said is true. The government that mandated green energy did not properly regulate the industry changes they forced on the private sector.

Why is it that you refuse to understand that?
the government of Texas did not properly regulate the industry. Correct
federal regulators can only lead that broke down old mule to water, Hoss. But if'n' the cantankerous grifters in that state house won't drink it : ta hell with the people right?
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the government of Texas did not properly regulate the industry. Correct
federal regulators can only lead that broke down old mule to water, Hoss. But if'n' the cantankerous grifters in that state house won't drink it : ta hell with the people right?
You still don't explain how the wind mills freezing because of the cold snap will benefit the power grid.
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