The Kyle Rittenhouse verdict and reverse racism - Page 3

jamesrage · #21 (**permalink**) 11-22-2021, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

Probably not by myself but yes if I thought cops beat and or killed a white guy w/o provocation or threat or if mistaken identity, whatever if it looked like police brutality yes I would attend, carry a sign, all that. Of course.

So that is a no. Because no such protest would be organized.

AZRWinger · #22 (**permalink**) 11-22-2021, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

Protest.
Yes I would have joined or formed a protest group and gone to wherever.
Do you think I only care about Black people?
There was police brutality in the sixties and a loot of it was just hippies and young people gathering who were not hippies. A girl was shot at Kent State for just protesting the war. Maybe you've heard of that.
This is a subject that has been with us a long time.
And times are changing. Some acts are out of the shadows due to cameras and social media.
Cops killed White people and one Black in the South that was tragic. Women of all colors get picked up and raped. That still happens. When light is shed on it people of good conscience and ability march. At night the thieves and muggers turn some protest into riots. That is the time to leave not to go where angels fear to tread.

That's nice that you feel that way but we are discussing the current environment where race hustlers like Benjamin Crump and Cori Bush tout BLM Marxists as heros and spread incendiary lies such as Jacob Blake being unarmed and Kyle Rittenhouse as a white supremacist. Shamelessly repeated by the media even Joe Brain Damage parrots the lies in a pathetic display of partisan demogoguery. You may need to burnish your self image with claims you'd protest against a white man unjustly gunned down by the police but that's not even in the vocabulary of the racists currently in charge of the levers of power.

Gordon Shumway · #23 (**permalink**) 11-22-2021, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

Protest.
Yes I would have joined or formed a protest group and gone to wherever.
Do you think I only care about Black people?
There was police brutality in the sixties and a loot of it was just hippies and young people gathering who were not hippies. A girl was shot at Kent State for just protesting the war. Maybe you've heard of that.
This is a subject that has been with us a long time.
And times are changing. Some acts are out of the shadows due to cameras and social media.
Cops killed White people and one Black in the South that was tragic. Women of all colors get picked up and raped. That still happens. When light is shed on it people of good conscience and ability march. At night the thieves and muggers turn some protest into riots. That is the time to leave not to go where angels fear to tread.

no i don't believe you care about black people. i believe you care about political statements and posturing.
and at kent state the rotc building was burned down by protesters...uh i mean rioters. maybe you heard about that.

mr wonder · #24 (**permalink**) 11-22-2021, 11:09 AM

looks like Rittenhouse says he supports BLM and believes there's a lot of prosecutorial misconduct.

“I’m not a racist person. I support the BLM movement and peacefully demonstrating.”
“I believe there needs to be change. I believe there’s a lot of prosecutorial misconduct, not just in my case but in other cases,” he said.
“It’s just amazing to see how much a prosecutor can take advantage of someone.”

https://nypost.com/2021/11/22/kyle-r...-self-defense/

so much for simply using the kid a partisan token
well. maybe, we'll see how the various "sides" try to spin this.

(BTW the owners of the Car dealership Rittenhouse was guarding were middle eastern, whom he met earlier that day.)

pjohns · #25 (**permalink**) 11-22-2021, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

If Kyle Rittenhouse had been black, and if Jacob Blake (shot by a police officer; this started the protest) had been white--the result of the trial would have been different.

I have heard that assertion before--numerous times.

What I have never heard is some proof to back it up...

saltwn · #26 (**permalink**) 11-22-2021, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gordon Shumway

no i don't believe you care about black people. i believe you care about political statements and posturing.
and at kent state the rotc building was burned down by protesters...uh i mean rioters. maybe you heard about that.

no you don't get to "re-do" Kent State, boyo. no you don't. There was a peace protest against the insane war that was killing 1 out of 10 of 2.7 million who served, and crippling 300 times those in any other war.
They were protesting recruiting of more young men to slaughter. They were unarmed.
I do not posture. You may not recognize the real deal when you see it because your own opinions are so much more important to you that you cannot fathom anyone genuinely having a different outlook.

Gordon Shumway · #27 (**permalink**) 11-22-2021, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

no you don't get to "re-do" Kent State, boyo. no you don't. There was a peace protest against the insane war that was killing 1 out of 10 of 2.7 million who served, and crippling 300 times those in any other war.
They were protesting recruiting of more young men to slaughter. They were unarmed.
I do not posture. You may not recognize the real deal when you see it because your own opinions are so much more important to you that you cannot fathom anyone genuinely having a different outlook.

re-do nothing.
it is a fact that the protester/rioters burned down the rotc building.
if that's news to you then that's on you for your willful ignorance.
have you ever been to kent state? have you seen where it happened? i have. and i know the history of what actually took place. too many folks want to forget about certain parts of that event.

saltwn · #28 (**permalink**) 11-22-2021, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gordon Shumway

re-do nothing.
it is a fact that the protester/rioters burned down the rotc building.
if that's news to you then that's on you for your willful ignorance.
have you ever been to kent state? have you seen where it happened? i have. and i know the history of what actually took place. too many folks want to forget about certain parts of that event.

make a thread if you wanna rehash protest(s) of the Vietnam War. I'm ready for ya.

saltwn · #29 (**permalink**) 11-22-2021, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pjohns

I have heard that assertion before--numerous times.

What I have never heard is some proof to back it up...

We only have to look at the Statistics

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The United States criminal justice system is the largest in the world. At yearend 2015, over 6.7 million individuals1) were under some form of correctional control in the United States, including 2.2 million incarcerated in federal, state, or local prisons and jails.2) The U.S. is a world leader in its rate of incarceration, dwarfing the rate of nearly every other nation.3)
Such broad statistics mask the racial disparity that pervades the U.S. criminal justice system, and for African Americans in particular. African Americans are more likely than white Americans to be arrested; once arrested, they are more likely to be convicted; and once convicted, and they are more likely to experience lengthy prison sentences. African-American adults are 5.9 times as likely to be incarcerated than whites and Hispanics are 3.1 times as likely.4) As of 2001, one of every three black boys born in that year could expect to go to prison in his lifetime, as could one of every six Latinos—compared to one of every seventeen white boys.5) Racial and ethnic disparities among women are less substantial than among men but remain prevalent.6)
The source of such disparities is deeper and more systemic than explicit racial discrimination. The United States in effect operates two distinct criminal justice systems: one for wealthy people and another for poor people and people of color. The wealthy can access a vigorous adversary system replete with constitutional protections for defendants. Yet the experiences of poor and minority defendants within the criminal justice system often differ substantially from that model due to a number of factors, each of which contributes to the overrepresentation of such individuals in the system. As former Georgetown Law Professor David Cole states in his book No Equal Justice,

These double standards are not, of course, explicit; on the face of it, the criminal law is color-blind and class-blind. But in a sense, this only makes the problem worse. The rhetoric of the criminal justice system sends the message that our society carefully protects everyone’s constitutional rights, but in practice the rules assure that law enforcement prerogatives will generally prevail over the rights of minorities and the poor. By affording criminal suspects substantial constitutional rights in theory, the Supreme Court validates the results of the criminal justice system as fair. That formal fairness obscures the systemic concerns that ought to be raised by the fact that the prison population is overwhelmingly poor and disproportionately black.7)

Gordon Shumway · #30 (**permalink**) 11-22-2021, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

make a thread if you wanna rehash protest(s) of the Vietnam War. I'm ready for ya.

you brought up kent state.
i merely pointed out an aspect of that you and so many either overlook or simply are uninformed as to what actually happened.
so don't throw schitt into a conversation if you can't discuss it.

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