Dad strips down over masks at school board meeting

[saltwn]

Video at site says it all:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-fath...ry?id=79644844

[jamesrage]

What a ****ing idiot. I can understand opposing vaccine mandates. After all there is the slight risk of getting bloodclots and myocarditis(heart inflammation) and if the anti-vaxxers are to be trusted you can't sue if you get ill side effects from vaccines. However opposing mask mandates is just retarded. Mask aren't permanent,nor are they injected into you.As far as I know there are no potential lethal side effects from wearing clean masks. When I was stationed in Korea I saw people wear masks when it was flu season and when it was dust storm season. So it isn't like the idea of wearing masks to avoid catching and passing diseases is some sort of new concept.

[GetAClue]

Originally Posted by jamesrage

What a ****ing idiot. I can understand opposing vaccine mandates. After all there is the slight risk of getting bloodclots and myocarditis(heart inflammation) and if the anti-vaxxers are to be trusted you can't sue if you get ill side effects from vaccines. However opposing mask mandates is just retarded. Mask aren't permanent,nor are they injected into you.As far as I know there are no potential lethal side effects from wearing clean masks. When I was stationed in Korea I saw people wear masks when it was flu season and when it was dust storm season. So it isn't like the idea of wearing masks to avoid catching and passing diseases is some sort of new concept.

There is absolutely no science that indicates that masks outside of N95 and up, provide any protection against this or any other virus. There is plenty of evidence however that shows that mask are harmful in many other ways. This should be an individual decision and NOT mandated as a one size fits all solution that has no evidence of providing any benefit.

[pjohns]

Originally Posted by jamesrage

[O]pposing mask mandates is just retarded.

Even if these masks offer an extra layer of protection (and that is debatable, since most people either wear them wrongly, or wear unapproved masks--or both)--it amounts to a matter of liberty versus security.

And I choose the former.

Originally Posted by jamesrage

Mask aren't permanent...

Well, that is a matter of opinion.

I really think that the government wants total control; and that this is just one step in that direction.

[saltwn]

Originally Posted by GetAClue

There is absolutely no science that indicates that masks outside of N95 and up, provide any protection against this or any other virus. There is plenty of evidence however that shows that mask are harmful in many other ways. This should be an individual decision and NOT mandated as a one size fits all solution that has no evidence of providing any benefit.

then why do surgical nurses and doctors wear them?

[cnredd]

Originally Posted by saltwn

then why do surgical nurses and doctors wear them?

They DON'T wear them...

Read it again...

Originally Posted by GetAClue

There is absolutely no science that indicates that masks outside of N95 and up, provide any protection against this or any other virus.

Surgical nurses and doctors wear the premium masks...NOT the simple cloth kind...

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and public health officials recommend that people wear masks in public settings as a way to slow transmission of the SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. While mask-wearing may be new to most of us, doctors have been wearing medical-grade N95 or surgical masks (which offer more protection than do cloth masks) during surgeries or patient interactions as part of their daily routines, for many decades.

[GetAClue]

Originally Posted by saltwn

then why do surgical nurses and doctors wear them?

That is actually a good question. Prior to Covid 19, you hardly ever saw doctors or nurses wearing masks outside of surgery or possibly in the emergency room when dealing with open wounds.

Why? Surely viruses have existed long before Covid 19. Thousands of people die each year for Influenza and other viruses and many more are hospitalized with viral infections, so why weren't hospital personnel wearing masks then, but they were wearing them in surgery?

You need to understand that there is a difference between a virus and bacteria. The reason doctors and nurses wear them in surgery is to prevent bacteria from their bodies, namely their mouth and nose, from escaping their body and entering the patients body through the open wound.

So how is this different? Consider the actual size of a virus particle and a particle of bacteria. Bacteria is thousands of times larger than a virus and is easily blocked by simple cloth or paper masks. Consider a virus particle being the size of a BB. A particle of bacteria would be the size of a basketball.

See the difference?

I was hospitalized for almost 3 months due to complications from the flu about 8 years ago. I was in the ICU for a month and the only masked people that I ever saw was 1 nurse that feared that she potentially had a cold and did not want to risk infecting me if she inadvertently coughed or sneezed. The only other masked individuals I saw was when they took me to surgery to do a procedure to put a port in my chest for kidney dialyses.

[saltwn]

Originally Posted by GetAClue

That is actually a good question. Prior to Covid 19, you hardly ever saw doctors or nurses wearing masks outside of surgery or possibly in the emergency room when dealing with open wounds.
We did when AIDs first came out and before we knew how it was spread.
Yes nurses in surgery wear masks that are not ND whatevers. The same ones my doctor's office and grocery store supply at the entrance door.
...
You need to understand that there is a difference between a virus and bacteria. The reason doctors and nurses wear them in surgery is to prevent bacteria from their bodies, namely their mouth and nose, from escaping their body and entering the patients body through the open wound.

So how is this different? Consider the actual size of a virus particle and a particle of bacteria. Bacteria is thousands of times larger than a virus and is easily blocked by simple cloth or paper masks. Consider a virus particle being the size of a BB. A particle of bacteria would be the size of a basketball.

...yes and I know I will protect you from my breath if I wear a mask. The CDC is saying wear one and social distance inside w/ those you don't live with everty day and have not been vaccinated.

I was hospitalized for almost 3 months due to complications from the flu about 8 years ago. I was in the ICU for a month and the only masked people that I ever saw was 1 nurse that feared that she potentially had a cold and did not want to risk infecting me if she inadvertently coughed or sneezed. The only other masked individuals I saw was when they took me to surgery to do a procedure to put a port in my chest for kidney dialyses.

Get vaccinated and try to persuade others to. Then you won't have to worry about the masks
Although masks are worn outside in many countries for cleanliness and disease prevention also to protect food.

[GetAClue]

Originally Posted by saltwn

Get vaccinated and try to persuade others to. Then you won't have to worry about the masks

I already don't have to worry about masks as they are NOT effective. I have yet to seen any definitive study that shows that they are.

Originally Posted by saltwn

Although masks are worn outside in many countries for cleanliness and disease prevention also to protect food.

Many other countries are third world hell holes. So what? Try to stay on topic.

[saltwn]

Originally Posted by GetAClue

I already don't have to worry about masks as they are NOT effective. I have yet to seen any definitive study that shows that they are.



Many other countries are third world hell holes. So what? Try to stay on topic.

pride of ignorance it still ignorance.