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Let us suppose (as some have posited) that gatherings of 10 or more people can be dangerous to our health, in this time of (quite legitimate) Covid-19 concerns.

That, then, begs the question:

Is physical health more important than social health?

It is an entirely serious question.

What do others think?
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I don't think this is about "health" at all...

It's about "control"...

The physical health aspect is moot considering the people "saved" by social distancing/wearing a mask/closing business/etc. does NOT compare to increased suicide/increased opioid use-death/overall deterioration of sanity...
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As redd said, they are completely ignoring the lives lost to emotional causes while focusing on controlling us with the PlanDemic. But with Covid getting the attention, nobody is dying from the Flu, heart attacks, cancer, car accidents or anything else. They just put everyone in the Covid category now.
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But with Covid getting the attention, nobody is dying from the Flu, heart attacks, cancer, car accidents or anything else. They just put everyone in the Covid category now.
You don't say...

Man who died after falling from a 10-foot ladder was actually killed by COVID-19: doctors

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A construction worker who died after plunging from a 10-foot ladder in Croatia was actually killed by the coronavirus, doctors said in a report.

The unnamed 51-year-old man fell into a yard while building a home earlier this year and suffered cuts and bruises to his head, according to the Journal of Forensic Pathology.

The builder was declared dead at the scene, but an autopsy later revealed that COVID-19 had indirectly caused the accident because effects of the illness were disorienting, the journal notes.

During the autopsy, doctors found that large swaths of the man’s lungs were blocked. The finding led scientists to conclude that he suffered from acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) — a life-threatening condition that can be caused by COVID-19.

“Based on all findings, the death was ruled as natural, caused by COVID-19,” the report notes. The man also tested positive for the virus.
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I might be way off base here, but I believe the Chinese released this on the world on purpose. I believe they did it because they have been so hurt economically, by the tariffs.

I also believe if Trump would have been re-elected, there would be another strain released. I'm looking at this as the ONLY positive for Biden winning.
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I might be way off base here, but I believe the Chinese released this on the world on purpose. I believe they did it because they have been so hurt economically, by the tariffs.

I also believe if Trump would have been re-elected, there would be another strain released. I'm looking at this as the ONLY positive for Biden winning.
Well, I am not so sure that this may be (correctly) considered a "positive" development.

If another strain of the virus had been released--and if it could be directly traced to the Chinese government--I think another round of (even more punitive) sanctions would have been appropriate--sanctions that would have made the Chinese government howl, with exceeding pain.

And that would have been a very good thing, I believe.

Note: I have no desire whatsoever to downplay our differences with the Chinese government. These differences are quite substantial--and should be highlighted, not downplayed. (The Chinese are not merely an adversary--but an actual enemy. They deserve to be treated as such.)
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Well, I am not so sure that this may be (correctly) considered a "positive" development.

If another strain of the virus had been released--and if it could be directly traced to the Chinese government--I think another round of (even more punitive) sanctions would have been appropriate--sanctions that would have made the Chinese government howl, with exceeding pain.

And that would have been a very good thing, I believe.

Note: I have no desire whatsoever to downplay our differences with the Chinese government. These differences are quite substantial--and should be highlighted, not downplayed. (The Chinese are not merely an adversary--but an actual enemy. They deserve to be treated as such.)
and what do you think of russia and n korea in relation to us?
just curious.
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Well, I am not so sure that this may be (correctly) considered a "positive" development.

If another strain of the virus had been released--and if it could be directly traced to the Chinese government--I think another round of (even more punitive) sanctions would have been appropriate--sanctions that would have made the Chinese government howl, with exceeding pain.

And that would have been a very good thing, I believe.

Note: I have no desire whatsoever to downplay our differences with the Chinese government. These differences are quite substantial--and should be highlighted, not downplayed. (The Chinese are not merely an adversary--but an actual enemy. They deserve to be treated as such.)

I believe China is both a friend AND enemy. They know they cannot hurt us militarily, but releasing a deadly viruses on the world must be OK. There have been a few people blaming China, but not one Democrat, or the MSM.

I have a feeling Democrats and the MSM are scared to death of China. I kind of see their point. They have almost brought us to our knees without firing a shot. This virus will have long lasting effects, and that doesn't take into consideration another more deadly virus they could release at any time.
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and what do you think of russia and n korea in relation to us?
just curious.
We are not buying trillions of dollars worth of merchandise from NK and Russia. And they also did not release a deadly virus on the world.

Have you noticed that Russia has not taken over any other countries while Trump was POTUS?
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and what do you think of russia and n korea in relation to us?
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They are enemies also.

And so is Iran.

(Note: I really do not think that Russia is as much of a threat to us as China is--at least, in the long term--since China is openly trying to overtake the US, both militarily and economically. Russia is not really a threat militarily, except for its nuclear arsenal; and it is absolutely no threat economically.)
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