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Old 11-29-2020, 10:45 AM
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there's no real way to stop progress. the owner will do what is best for him.
Some people have a perverted view of "progress".
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there's no real way to stop progress. the owner will do what is best for him.
I don't understand your implication here. Are you saying that it is a bad thing that a business owner would look to reduce his overhead costs and add efficiency to his bottom line? Sure, it could cost some jobs, but that was the same logic that people argued about when Henry Ford started building cars. Look at all of the carriage and buggy whip makers he was putting out of business.

As automation increases, some jobs are left behind, but a whole new world of jobs opens up. It has been that way since people began manufacturing and selling things. It will continue.
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Ever since FDR (and his New Deal), American government has intervened in the free market.

But I am not certain that this is a good thing.

What do you think?
I don't think all intervention is a bad thing. For example laws against monopolies, laws against price gouging, tariffs on goods produced in certain countries(I know a lot of republicans disagree with tariffs and feel that a company should be allowed to pack up and go somewhere they can pay workers pennies on the dollar), environmental and worker protection laws that companies have to abide by and zoning laws I think are examples of good intervention into the free market.
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I don't understand your implication here. Are you saying that it is a bad thing that a business owner would look to reduce his overhead costs and add efficiency to his bottom line? Sure, it could cost some jobs, but that was the same logic that people argued about when Henry Ford started building cars. Look at all of the carriage and buggy whip makers he was putting out of business.

As automation increases, some jobs are left behind, but a whole new world of jobs opens up. It has been that way since people began manufacturing and selling things. It will continue.
I don't think that is a valid comparison.When Ford started building cars all those carriage and buggy whip makers could go work for Ford building cars. With AI and automation advancements reaches a certain point and costs of those drastically lower there will not be alternate forms of employment, because almost everything will be done by machines.
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you want the democrats to stop automation and the republicans to stop socialism.
why can't they work together somehow to bring a future that benefits us all?
1.Democrats claim to be for the poor working man. It will be all the jobs the poor working man does that will be the first victims of automation.

2.I am not a socialist. So why would I want socialism to happen?Republicans and conservatives are against socialism. If most people have jobs and can support themselves then they are not going to cling to socialism or communism to save them.However if most people don't have jobs they are going to go to the government with their hand held out and uncle sam isn't going to give the anything without strings attached.
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I don't understand your implication here. Are you saying that it is a bad thing that a business owner would look to reduce his overhead costs and add efficiency to his bottom line? Sure, it could cost some jobs, but that was the same logic that people argued about when Henry Ford started building cars. Look at all of the carriage and buggy whip makers he was putting out of business.

As automation increases, some jobs are left behind, but a whole new world of jobs opens up. It has been that way since people began manufacturing and selling things. It will continue.
no, get, I said just the opposite.
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The reason automation won't be stopped here is because other countries are also automating.
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