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Byron York (of The Washington Examiner) was on Fox News this morning (Thursday, August 6, as I write this), speculating on what might happen under four different scenarios, as regarding the November presidential election.

One of those scenarios was as follows:

Joe Biden wins the popular vote, but Donald Trump wins the electoral vote. (This is exactly what happened in 2016--and even in 2000: a split.)

Many Democrats are outraged about the prospect of four more years of Donald Trump--even though their candidate won the popular vote.

So Democratic governors in states that Trump won try to replace the state electors with those who will be "faithless"--i.e. with those who will vote for Joe Biden, regardless of the fact that Donald Trump carried the state.

I think that this might well lead to a civil war (something which I certainly do not wish to occur).

At the very least, it would signal the end of our republic, as we have traditionally known it--and, truly, in any meaningful sense of the word.

Would others care to comment upon this?
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Byron York (of The Washington Examiner) was on Fox News this morning (Thursday, August 6, as I write this), speculating on what might happen under four different scenarios, as regarding the November presidential election.

One of those scenarios was as follows:

Joe Biden wins the popular vote, but Donald Trump wins the electoral vote. (This is exactly what happened in 2016--and even in 2000: a split.)

Many Democrats are outraged about the prospect of four more years of Donald Trump--even though their candidate won the popular vote.

So Democratic governors in states that Trump won try to replace the state electors with those who will be "faithless"--i.e. with those who will vote for Joe Biden, regardless of the fact that Donald Trump carried the state.

I think that this might well lead to a civil war (something which I certainly do not wish to occur).

At the very least, it would signal the end of our republic, as we have traditionally known it--and, truly, in any meaningful sense of the word.

Would others care to comment upon this?
I would hate to think it would happen, but I could see some serious trouble in this country if that were to happen. I've not put a lot of thought it too it, but I would imagine that there could be some violence from both sides of this.
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Byron York (of The Washington Examiner) was on Fox News this morning (Thursday, August 6, as I write this), speculating on what might happen under four different scenarios, as regarding the November presidential election.

One of those scenarios was as follows:

Joe Biden wins the popular vote, but Donald Trump wins the electoral vote. (This is exactly what happened in 2016--and even in 2000: a split.)

Many Democrats are outraged about the prospect of four more years of Donald Trump--even though their candidate won the popular vote.

So Democratic governors in states that Trump won try to replace the state electors with those who will be "faithless"--i.e. with those who will vote for Joe Biden, regardless of the fact that Donald Trump carried the state.

I think that this might well lead to a civil war (something which I certainly do not wish to occur).

At the very least, it would signal the end of our republic, as we have traditionally known it--and, truly, in any meaningful sense of the word.

Would others care to comment upon this?
Since Democrats pay more attention to law and order as well as the constitution the past several years, I doubt this will be like George Bush refusing to accept Al Gore's win.
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Since Democrats pay more attention to law and order as well as the constitution the past several years, I doubt this will be like George Bush refusing to accept Al Gore's win.
I do believe however that whomever is the winner there will be rw violence
if trump loses he will fool his peeps into thinking the election was rigged and they'll take to the streets. If Trump wins they will take that as a signal they can beat up or kill random Democrats.
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Byron York (of The Washington Examiner) was on Fox News this morning (Thursday, August 6, as I write this), speculating on what might happen under four different scenarios, as regarding the November presidential election.

One of those scenarios was as follows:

Joe Biden wins the popular vote, but Donald Trump wins the electoral vote. (This is exactly what happened in 2016--and even in 2000: a split.)

Many Democrats are outraged about the prospect of four more years of Donald Trump--even though their candidate won the popular vote.

So Democratic governors in states that Trump won try to replace the state electors with those who will be "faithless"--i.e. with those who will vote for Joe Biden, regardless of the fact that Donald Trump carried the state.

I think that this might well lead to a civil war (something which I certainly do not wish to occur).

At the very least, it would signal the end of our republic, as we have traditionally known it--and, truly, in any meaningful sense of the word.

Would others care to comment upon this?
How many forums do you spam with the exact same posts? This is the second one I've seen today where you started the same identical thread.
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Joe Biden wins the popular vote, but Donald Trump wins the electoral vote. (This is exactly what happened in 2016--and even in 2000: a split.)


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The answer is quite simple....

Donald Trump would win his second term....

Presidential elections are won and lost counting electoral votes for each state...
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The answer is quite simple....

Donald Trump would win his second term....

Presidential elections are won and lost counting electoral votes for each state...
I've said it before, and I'll say it again...

The popular vote is MEANINGLESS...Not only because the Constitutional system of national voting is set up that way, but because candidates do not campaign to win the popular vote (not intentionally, anyway)...

A candidate works their keister off to win the electoral college, only to have the rules changed?...
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again...

The popular vote is MEANINGLESS...Not only because the Constitutional system of national voting is set up that way, but because candidates do not campaign to win the popular vote (not intentionally, anyway)...

A candidate works their keister off to win the electoral college, only to have the rules changed?...
when did the rules change?
they didn't
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when did the rules change?
they didn't
Not for lack of trying!!!!!!!!!...

Virginia House passes bill to give electoral votes to popular vote winner

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Virginia's House of Delegates passed a bill on Tuesday that would award the state's electoral votes to the national winner of the presidential popular vote.

The measure, HB 177, would look to incorporate Virginia into the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, an agreement established by each participating state's laws to put its electoral votes toward the winner of the national popular vote, instead of the state's own popular vote.

...The compact will go into effect only if the cumulative total of the states' electoral votes surpasses the 270 necessary for a majority, which would require states that voted for President Donald Trump in 2016 to sign on. Levine also noted that the pact has a July 20 deadline in order to go into effect for November's general election.

Currently, 15 states and the District of Columbia have joined the compact, for a total of 196 electoral votes, according to National Popular Vote Inc., the organization leading the effort. Most recently, Oregon joined the pact last June. If Virginia were to join, with its 13 electoral votes, the total would bump up to 209.
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I would hate to think it would happen, but I could see some serious trouble in this country if that were to happen. I've not put a lot of thought it too it, but I would imagine that there could be some violence from both sides of this.
It has happened in three of the last five elections. Either the vote in one or two states was so close we had to wait for court ordered recounts or the Electoral college opposed the popular vote. None of those challenges, all three of which came from the Democrats, helped to unify our nation.

It's really not about the legal vote process anymore. If, in the unlikely chance, Trump wins by a landslide, there will quite possibly still be riots in the major cities.
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