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Old 09-26-2019, 04:50 PM
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the most amazing thing about the transcription of the trump-ukraine conversation is how different the same words will be interpreted depending on who's reading them. probably because those who will read it likely already have an opinion and will just look for the words and phrases that will confirm their opinion.
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Right, there is no stopping partisan spinning of the transcript mainly projecting motives on to the principals on the call. Of course if we examine the statements from Trump and the Ukrainian president we find both say there was no pressure to investigate Biden or threat to withhold aid. What's unambiguous is Trump's concern with rooting out corruption in the Ukraine.
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the most amazing thing about the transcription of the trump-ukraine conversation is how different the same words will be interpreted depending on who's reading them.
That's across the board...

Obama said we were "five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States" and the Left blew him kisses...

If Trump said that, it would be reason #492 to yell "TREASON!!!"...

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this is funny...i don't care who you are.

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That's across the board...


Correct.....


Both parties are guilty of making up their own version of "facts" for political gain....

Professional American politics 101.....
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Correct.....


Both parties are guilty of making up their own version of "facts" for political gain....

Professional American politics 101.....
That's not what I was talking about...

My point is the REACTION to a politician's words...

Democrats are given the benefit of a doubt as to what the politician's words MEAN, while Republican are not given that same benefit...
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That's not what I was talking about...

My point is the REACTION to a politician's words...

Democrats are given the benefit of a doubt as to what the politician's words MEAN, while Republican are not given that same benefit...
Hmmm, I disagree with that opinion and believe that's its very biased.....

The republican and the dem talking heads in the media "explain" to their sheeple who said what and why....

Hannity and Rush and OReilly NEVER had ANY good things to say about Obama or his administration for eight years, the same went for the eight years Clinton was president....

Just like CNN NEVER has ANY good things to say about Donald....

This is pretty much basic politics and has been for decades.....
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Hannity and Rush and OReilly NEVER had ANY good things to say about Obama or his administration for eight years, the same went for the eight years Clinton was president....

Just like CNN NEVER has ANY good things to say about Donald....

This is pretty much basic politics and has been for decades.....
Still not what I'm talking about

A pundit saying that what the president said is bad is one thing....But saying that what the president said is bad by WRONGLY INTERPRETING what the president said is absolute bullsh*t...

Go google "president dog whistle" or "president codespeak"...You're not going to find a 50/50 split between the Left and the Right and honestly say "Oh, they both do the same thing."...
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Still not what I'm talking about

A pundit saying that what the president said is bad is one thing....But saying that what the president said is bad by WRONGLY INTERPRETING what the president said is absolute bullsh*t...

Go google "president dog whistle" or "president codespeak"...You're not going to find a 50/50 split between the Left and the Right and honestly say "Oh, they both do the same thing."...
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You'd have an excellent point if not for the fact that the vast majority of the people who gave Obama no respect were anonymous twitter feeds and people with no audience, while the vast majority of people who give Trump no respect are the media, celebrities, musicians, and other public figures...

Wow! The 14% of people with a public platform that gave Obama no respect is JUST like the 86% of people with a public platform that give Trump no respect!!! See!!!...It's the EXACT SAME THING!!!!!....

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