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Old 09-21-2019, 01:20 PM
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A year ago, I strongly objected to the new standard of guilty until proven innocent, as it was applied to Brett Kavanaugh.

But it is no less inappropriate when it is applied in the world of sports.

Wide receiver Antonio Brown has just been released from the New England Patriots, following accusations of rape and other sexual misconduct.

And it is quite possible that those allegations are true.

At this point, however, they amount to a he-said-she-said sort of thing.

True, some will say that this had nothing to do with the recent allegations--especially since Brown was released earlier by the Oakland Raiders.

But I am really not a big believer in coincidence...
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don't worry.
he'll probably land on the bengals roster.
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Couldn't happen to a nicer guy, I love happy endings.....
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I quite agree with the OP. It seems AB is a victim of a narrative set by political correctness and me too. Despite being a supremely gifted and productive player he is labeled as a malcontent and a sexual predator.

The Raiders traded for him last off season then released him earlier this month after he posted a video of a phone conversation he had with the coach. The media spun the tale his teammates were incensed over his betrayal of confidentiality but it later came out the coach had approved of the video. Back when the Raiders were winning championships their motto was "just win baby".

The Patriots with a strong locker room culture picked AB up after he was cut. They had a culture of working with troubled wide receivers like Randy Moss and Ocho Cinco. But this time they fell into the same guilty until proven innocent trap as demanded by MeToo. Does anyone else remember Kobe Bryant?
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I quite agree with the OP.
It seems AB is a victim of a narrative set by political correctness and me too. Despite being a supremely gifted and productive player he is labeled as a malcontent and a sexual predator.


AB has been a POS for decades and his behavior has been let to pass for far too long....

It's all ended now....

No victim bull-**** here, he's the real thing, a total POS....

It is nice to see what goes around comes back around now and then....

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AB has been a POS for decades and his behavior has been let to pass for far too long....

It's all ended now....

No victim bull-**** here, he's the real thing, a total POS....

It is nice to see what goes around comes back around now and then....
That's right, put AB in the stocks in the town square so he can be publicly shamed by the mob based on accusations in a civil lawsuit and another accuser. He has to be deprived of practicing his chosen profession because the league and pundits need to signal their virtue.

From the USA today.

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Well, well, well. Any team wanting to sign a man who has been accused of serious sexual misconduct by two different women in less than two weeks has now been duly warned.

While itís wonderful that the NFL put this in writing, itís also terrible that the NFL had to put it in writing. It means that the league is not entirely certain that a team wonít try to sign Brown in the next few days. And if thatís a possibility, what does that say about that team, its so-called leadership and the way it views its role in a city where 50% of the population and 45 % of its fan base is women and girls?

I think this is the right answer: Not much.

Like it or not, times are changing. Each of the 32 NFL teams is much more than just a football franchise. Itís also a pillar of its community. None of them exists in a void.
https://amp-usatoday-com.cdn.ampproj...F2400511001%2F

So, it's not a professional sports league it's a pillar of the community subject to the political passions of the mob. AB is a POS therefore in our self righteous pomposity we can put our finger on the scale to judge him guilty before the case is heard or the investigation completed. He is a bad guy so the accusations must be true. No one questions the veracity of the accusations or why a civil suit was filed instead of a criminal complaint, we know the answers already.

That is not to say AB is a model citizen or that NFL teams don't have the right to dismiss him. It's a protest against the NFL'S rush to judgement to appease the MeToo zealots where the validity of the accusation is determined by who makes it.

It's understandable why you needed to delete out most of my earlier comment when you copied it in your reply. In the future please restrain yourself from just showing a selected excerpt in the Hope's of making the weakness of your retort.
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Maybe Antonio can team up with Nike/Colin Kaepernick "Believe in something, even if it means sacrificing everything.Ē
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I no longer follow NFL, nor will I ever again. But I do pay attention to business. These billion dollar businesses are dependent on attendance, viewers, and advertising for the income stream. All are down and in spite of the rhetoric, most view it at least in part on the troublemaker Koepernick. Brown is viewed as a troublemaker. Nobody's buying the troublemaker.
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While the Patriots may have pointed to the impending investigations of AB as a reason for releasing him, the true reason is that he is a cancer to the team. There are some very talented players out there that detract much more than they contribute in a team atmosphere.

I played college football for 4 years and have personally seen this in action. We had a tailback transfer in from another school and was more talented than our other backs. He was destined to start after sitting for a year due to the NCAA transfer rules. However, he didn't last that long. He became such a cancer in the locker room that he was dismissed from the team. He wanted to make everything about him and treated those around him with disdain unless he felt they were needed to make him look good.

AB reminds me to this. His antics are too much to put up with for the results that he may provide on the field.
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While the Patriots may have pointed to the impending investigations of AB as a reason for releasing him, the true reason is that he is a cancer to the team. There are some very talented players out there that detract much more than they contribute in a team atmosphere.

I played college football for 4 years and have personally seen this in action. We had a tailback transfer in from another school and was more talented than our other backs. He was destined to start after sitting for a year due to the NCAA transfer rules. However, he didn't last that long. He became such a cancer in the locker room that he was dismissed from the team. He wanted to make everything about him and treated those around him with disdain unless he felt they were needed to make him look good.

AB reminds me to this. His antics are too much to put up with for the results that he may provide on the field.
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