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Old 08-30-2019, 08:37 AM
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On the wall of my factory is a sign stating that;

"It matters not who's fault it is, failure is not the path to success. Each of us must make the effort to overcome failure more important than assessing blame. Only success satisfies the client and fulfills your paycheck."

Blaming the Democrats is easy. Gaining control of those cites by conservatives is hard. But unless we remove the problem, the right is as responsible for the misery of the people as the left.

Recognition of the fault is not enough. The GOP has never been good at getting their message out. If they are to be the solution, they first need to fix that problem.
I agree the GOP establishment has failed to get a Conservative message out but it is more than that. With the help of media toadies Democrats are able to deny problems created by their policies , good intentions are enough.

The false compassion of Democrats toward the homeless gets plenty of play but the destruction of small businesses and even the growing health crisis it fosters are barely reported.

Rather than point out that allowing squalid camps of homeless to flourish far too many Republicans are willing to go along with the scam or worse endorse the failed policies out of fear of being labeled heartless.

The sign in your factory assumes a failure has been recognized but Democrats never admit failure or even adverse consequences of their policies unless it is to push for more Federal control.
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Do not blame others for a failure you could have prevented.

Francism #1

If your efforts concentrate on recognizing and preventing failure, what's left?
Success!


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If you avoid failure all that remains is success.

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And the "right wingers" are doing what about homelessness in America?

As is typical the "Right" condemns the efforts of the "Left" in trying to reach solutions to problems without ever offering any solutions to the problems. It is really tiring to read nothing but complaints without ever reading any solutions. Try offering something positive once in awhile.

The "Left" is providing shelters for the homeless as fast as funding can be made available. It reaches out to private charities to provide services for the homeless.

The "Right" is whining about the homeless without trying to do anything to address the problem.
Been to a Salvation Army shelter lately? Been to the soup kitchens, and barracks run by Churches and religious groups? Been to community outreaches? Been to food pantries? Habitat for Humanity house builds?

Apparently, you think homeless people can be corralled and forced into shelters. You apparently think homeless people can be told that they must participate in food kitchens, or other charitable events, accept donated clothing and food.

You are so far off the mark here, you aren't even within miles. The conservatives have been doing things for decades. The left seems to think demanding money from people will fix the problem, yet when it comes time for actually personally involving themselves, you find few to participate.
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I predict the homeless will start squatting on people's yards, and there will be next to nothing done about it, with a few exceptions involving violence, done by both sides: the homeowners and the squatters.

If nobody is able to pull something concrete and beneficial out of his ass, there will be violence galore.
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I predict the homeless will start squatting on people's yards, and there will be next to nothing done about it, with a few exceptions involving violence, done by both sides: the homeowners and the squatters.

If nobody is able to pull something concrete and beneficial out of his ass, there will be violence galore.
'Squatters' won't be tolerated by the local law enforcement in my town. If they're going to pull that crap in south Texas, they better find a bigger city (with liberal policies)... like Houston or San Antonio.
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'Squatters' won't be tolerated by the local law enforcement in my town. If they're going to pull that crap in south Texas, they better find a bigger city (with liberal policies)... like Houston or San Antonio.
Or Dallas and Fort Worth, Austin. Are there any other big cities that have the "tent" problem?
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Been to a Salvation Army shelter lately? Been to the soup kitchens, and barracks run by Churches and religious groups? Been to community outreaches? Been to food pantries? Habitat for Humanity house builds?

Apparently, you think homeless people can be corralled and forced into shelters. You apparently think homeless people can be told that they must participate in food kitchens, or other charitable events, accept donated clothing and food.

You are so far off the mark here, you aren't even within miles. The conservatives have been doing things for decades. The left seems to think demanding money from people will fix the problem, yet when it comes time for actually personally involving themselves, you find few to participate.
Your right GAC, the vast majority of homeless people are very defiant when it comes to authority or anyone telling them what to do. This is why they can not hold down a job. I worked along side, what I call, the working homeless. I drank beer with them on paydays and learned a lot. These guys were only working until they saved up what they needed for about 6 months.

I also used to pick up homeless people for day labor, many times they would refuse to work when we got to the jobsite, but they still got a free lunch.

You cannot force the chronic homeless to do better, or try harder, most are set in their ways of living. I do not feel sorry for most of them.

Kids and animals are another story.
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Your right GAC, the vast majority of homeless people are very defiant when it comes to authority or anyone telling them what to do. This is why they can not hold down a job. I worked along side, what I call, the working homeless. I drank beer with them on paydays and learned a lot. These guys were only working until they saved up what they needed for about 6 months.

I also used to pick up homeless people for day labor, many times they would refuse to work when we got to the jobsite, but they still got a free lunch.

You cannot force the chronic homeless to do better, or try harder, most are set in their ways of living. I do not feel sorry for most of them.

Kids and animals are another story.
I'm with you there. Kids and animals generally have no say in the matter.
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We took in a homeless family a couple of years back. A Mother, Grandmother, and a boy about 12 years old. After awhile had to ask them to leave since Mom was pilfering stuff and not looking for work. We said the boy and grandmother could stay, but mom had to go. They decided to stick together so they left. Most of these people have serious problems that aren't easy to solve. We knew the mother in this situation. She used to be a top earner working in the insurance business. Then got cancer, then hooked on prescription meds and downhill from there. By the way, another problem with homeless is high cost of rent in southern california. People can't afford the rents here. What to do, what to do.
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We took in a homeless family a couple of years back. A Mother, Grandmother, and a boy about 12 years old. After awhile had to ask them to leave since Mom was pilfering stuff and not looking for work. We said the boy and grandmother could stay, but mom had to go. They decided to stick together so they left. Most of these people have serious problems that aren't easy to solve. We knew the mother in this situation. She used to be a top earner working in the insurance business. Then got cancer, then hooked on prescription meds and downhill from there. By the way, another problem with homeless is high cost of rent in southern california. People can't afford the rents here. What to do, what to do.

That was a very noble thing for you to try.

I'm sure if you looked deep enough into their lives, you would find bad decisions made over and over. Like pilfering from the people helping them.

I think every high school should teach classes in decision making. Let kids make decisions on different things everyday in class, and discuss the outcomes.

In high school I made a decision to party all night and call in sick on Saturday morning. I thought I made a good decision, I had a lot of fun, I also got fired.

Some people would blame the employer since it was my first offense, I knew it was my fault, and I made sure never to lose a job again. Many people would never learn that simple lesson.
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