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Old 08-04-2019, 07:18 AM
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Another mass shooting yesterday evening in Dayton, Ohio... 9 dead, 16 injured per news reports. My question for those on the left side of the aisle is this - what new gun regulations/laws would have prevented yesterdays shootings?

I feel like there is an issue here that the left is not addressing - and that is the issue of mental health. Peer-reviewed research has shown that individuals with major mental disorders (those that substantially interfere with life activities) are more likely to commit violent acts, especially if they abuse drugs. When we focus more narrowly on mass public shootings — an extreme and, fortunately, rare form of violence — we see a relatively high rate of mental illness. Untreated mental illness, over medicated, numbed psychiatric patients, and criminals do not read the law before committing murder. They just commit murder.

The media should stop glorifying this violence. That is a bit off topic but I am seeing a nasty trend with this. Some of the MSM broadcasts last night had split screen coverage of both shootings. I feel there are steps the media can take to reduce the sensational effect and the excessive focus on the perpetrator especially in the immediate aftermath of one of these shootings.
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No new laws would have made a difference. There are already laws against what happened.
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There are no laws that will prevent mentally ill people wanting to go out in a blaze of glory, in their minds....

It's impossible to stop them all so, any new laws only affect the law abiding gun owners that have guns for protection or hunting....

This feel good political crap with certain politicians is worth less than a warm six pack in reality....The same goes for the war on drugs or the war on poverty...
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Another mass shooting yesterday evening in Dayton, Ohio... 9 dead, 16 injured per news reports. My question for those on the left side of the aisle is this - what new gun regulations/laws would have prevented yesterdays shootings?
The nefarious use of the term "prevented" as opposed to addressing the number victims from the shooting. We can't prevent a shooting in most cases but we can reduce the number of victims in a shooting.

In both cases a limitation on the ammunition capacity of the magazines for high velocity military grade ammunition to five rounds would have dramatically reduced the number of victims.

In Ohio, for example, the shooter was stopped in "seconds" (less than one minute) but still managed to kill 9 and wound 26. If the shooter was limited to five-round magazines he would have had to reload and empty the magazines seven times in seconds (i.e. less than a minute) and that is an extremely short period of time. Highly improbable.
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We can't prevent a shooting in most cases but we can reduce the number of victims in a shooting.

In both cases a limitation on the ammunition capacity of the magazines for high velocity military grade ammunition to five rounds would have dramatically reduced the number of victims.
No, not at all.....

Extra smaller clips can be loaded very quickly, you obviously have no experience with shooting weapons in general....

Like smaller bags of illegal drugs will help reduce drug addicts.....

This is the stupid **** the politicians come up with to get elected by sheeple....
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The nefarious use of the term "prevented" as opposed to addressing the number victims from the shooting. We can't prevent a shooting in most cases but we can reduce the number of victims in a shooting.

In both cases a limitation on the ammunition capacity of the magazines for high velocity military grade ammunition to five rounds would have dramatically reduced the number of victims.

In Ohio, for example, the shooter was stopped in "seconds" (less than one minute) but still managed to kill 9 and wound 26. If the shooter was limited to five-round magazines he would have had to reload and empty the magazines seven times in seconds (i.e. less than a minute) and that is an extremely short period of time. Highly improbable.
Again with the damned "five rounds" bullshlt! Like the turd that won't flush, it keeps coming back. That little piss-ant gem of a law will deter only the law-abiding people, and the psychos will not even bother with it.


Picture this scenario:

Gun Psycho: Oh gosh! Look at all those people I can shoot, and here I am with only five bullets per magazine. Golly gosh darn!

I think we have enough armchair combat veterans who are quick to offer more silly tidbits to deter the bad guys, but by all means, please continue adding to the baloney.
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They're calling the shootings a case of domestic terrorism.
Because it was.
Just got that from NBC news.
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Another mass shooting yesterday evening in Dayton, Ohio... 9 dead, 16 injured per news reports. My question for those on the left side of the aisle is this - what new gun regulations/laws would have prevented yesterdays shootings?

I feel like there is an issue here that the left is not addressing - and that is the issue of mental health. Peer-reviewed research has shown that individuals with major mental disorders (those that substantially interfere with life activities) are more likely to commit violent acts, especially if they abuse drugs. When we focus more narrowly on mass public shootings — an extreme and, fortunately, rare form of violence — we see a relatively high rate of mental illness. Untreated mental illness, over medicated, numbed psychiatric patients, and criminals do not read the law before committing murder. They just commit murder.

The media should stop glorifying this violence. That is a bit off topic but I am seeing a nasty trend with this. Some of the MSM broadcasts last night had split screen coverage of both shootings. I feel there are steps the media can take to reduce the sensational effect and the excessive focus on the perpetrator especially in the immediate aftermath of one of these shootings.
What new laws would have prevented El Paso,Texas or Dayton,Ohio shootings yesterday
Banning inciteful speech during political campaigns might slow it down for sure.
trump (in fla) said 'only in the panhandle' when magas shouted ' shoot em!' when he asked what to do about the immigrants.
I suggest you start there.
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What new laws would have prevented El Paso,Texas or Dayton,Ohio shootings yesterday
Banning inciteful speech during political campaigns might slow it down for sure.
trump (in fla) said 'only in the panhandle' when magas shouted ' shoot em!' when he asked what to do about the immigrants.
I suggest you start there.
So your solution to dealing with mentally ill people is to go after not only the 2nd Amendment but the 1st Amendment rights of people in this country? What other Amendments or parts of the Constitution in general would you like to abolish so that the Government can come in and take care of you from cradle to grave?
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So your solution to dealing with mentally ill people is to go after not only the 2nd Amendment but the 1st Amendment rights of people in this country? What other Amendments or parts of the Constitution in general would you like to abolish so that the Government can come in and take care of you from cradle to grave?
She (and many of those on the left) are basically advocating for government tyranny. Of course they deny this... but there is no disputing their intentions when they make statements like this.
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