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Old 08-08-2019, 11:45 AM
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The focal point is the number of dead and wounded in the short amount of time in which the mass murders took place. That requires a semiautomatic rifle with a large capacity magazine.

The focus on "assault weapons" (i.e. carbine rifles firing high velocity ammunitions that were designed for military use and that, in combat, are almost exclusively used in the semiautomatic mode) where high capacity magazines are available is important if we want to reduce the number of dead and wounded. Having to reload and having less lethal ammunition both reduce the number of victims "per second" during a mass shooting.
You left out the .22 rifle in another thread, as being okay, or something like that. You obviously know doodly squat about how powerful a .22 is.

You do not have the make of a combat veteran, and you definitely rate a "mediocre" in weapons knowledge.
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While not new legislation the expiration of the Brady Bill's prohibitions on the manufacture and sales of new "assault" weapons arguably accounted for the number of dead and wounded in Dayton and El Paso. Both of these mass murderers used newly purchased "assault weapons" that were banned under the Brady Bill.

When the Brady Bill's restrictions on "assault weapons" were enacted in 1994 very few people owned them. It's been estimated that less than one million and perhaps fewer than 500,000 were privately owned at the time. When the Brady Bill's prohibitions expired in 2004 it opened up a floodgate of purchases for these types of firearms with over 10 million being sold during the next ten years.

If those that wanted these types of firearms had been limited to the number of privately owned rifles in circulation in 1994 the price would have skyrocketed. Because they went back into commercial production the price was only a fraction of what it would have been without resumed production.

It's doubtful that either shooter would have been able to locate and afford to purchase the "assault weapons" they used in Dayton or El Paso if the Brady Bill's provisions had not been allowed to expire.

The resumption of production of these types of firearms also makes any new assault weapon ban less effective because of the additional number of these firearms that are now privately owned. It was a huge mistake to allow the Brady Bill to expire.





Why don't you start a fight against bladed weapons also while you're at it. Oh, that's right. Not enough people are killed. How about pencils? Nope. How about credit cards? Have you seen what the edge of a credit card can do?
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Stop with the absurd comparisons. You cannot kill and wound the number of victims in Dayton and El Paso in the short amount of time both instances occurred with a knife. You can't even do it with a bolt action rifle or a revolver that requires reloading every six rounds.

Mass murders cannot be prevented completely but the number of dead and wounded can be significantly reduced.
Why don't you stop with your absurd notion that taking away guns will prevent people from being murder en mass. On 9/11 2001, over 3 thousand people died at the hands of a few terrorists armed with nothing but knives. So when you can show me an example of that many causalities in this country from people armed with guns in a single event, I am all ears.
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Why don't you start a fight against bladed weapons also while you're at it. Oh, that's right. Not enough people are killed. How about pencils? Nope. How about credit cards? Have you seen what the edge of a credit card can do?
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