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I think that Donald Trump has been the best president within several decades. Even so, however, he is not perfect. (Well, who is?)

I am especially troubled by the sanctions he has placed upon countries doing business with Iran.

More precisely, it is not the sanctions per se that trouble me. Rather, it is the exceptions.

I have just learned that eight countries--eight!--are excepted from these sanctions. These countries include a major enemy (China); an ally (South Korea); and a country that falls somewhere in between (India).

This is simply wrong!

Six senators--including Donald Trump's erstwhile challenger for the 2016 Republican nomination, Ted Cruz (of Texas)--have sent a letter of complaint to the White House.

And I thoroughly agree with Cruz et al.

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I'd need to know the details of each of these exceptions...

If you hurt the country dealing with Iran MORE than actual Iran, you may be defeating the purpose...and gaining an annoyed ally...
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I'm typically not a proponent of any sanctions or tariffs for political purposes. Generally it's the US provider or end user that gets hurt and the government that reaps the benefits.
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I'd need to know the details of each of these exceptions...

If you hurt the country dealing with Iran MORE than actual Iran, you may be defeating the purpose...and gaining an annoyed ally...
There may also be a balance of considerations involved such as with China. We are in the process of negotiating a trade deal with the Chinese to stop the literally billions of dollars in abusive practices targeting the US.

The European countries continue trading with Iran under the sham agreement.
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I'd need to know the details of each of these exceptions...
I truly wish that I could elaborate a bit. But I know only what I heard on the news last night. (Basically, it is this: The eight countries that are excepted may trade with Iran, free of any threat of American sanctions.)
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I learned tonight, on the news, that the exceptions that I noted in the OP are about to expire; and that they shall not be renewed.

(By the way, three of the eight countries--Greece, Italy, and Japan--have already eliminated all dealings with Iran, as concerning oil supplies. That leaves the three countries previously mentioned, plus Japan and Turkey.)
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I learned tonight, on the news, that the exceptions that I noted in the OP are about to expire; and that they shall not be renewed.
I heard abot that, earlier today, and was going to point this out, but you beat me to it...
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I think that Donald Trump has been the best president within several decades. Even so, however, he is not perfect. (Well, who is?)

I am especially troubled by the sanctions he has placed upon countries doing business with Iran.

More precisely, it is not the sanctions per se that trouble me. Rather, it is the exceptions.

I have just learned that eight countries--eight!--are excepted from these sanctions. These countries include a major enemy (China); an ally (South Korea); and a country that falls somewhere in between (India).

This is simply wrong!

Six senators--including Donald Trump's erstwhile challenger for the 2016 Republican nomination, Ted Cruz (of Texas)--have sent a letter of complaint to the White House.

And I thoroughly agree with Cruz et al.

Thoughts?
I think you'll be interested in Mr Paul's views on this .

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So why are there sanctions on Iran exactly?
Can someone explain exactly the GOOD they will do for the U.S., or the world.
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