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Timely article, at least for me. Had a parent of a 30 year old employee call in about their child's issue on Monday... first, I was flabberghasted. Then politely told the mother that since they are not our employee, I could not discuss the issue with them.

She didn't take that very well. But, interestingly enough, the actual employee never came to me about the problem. Mom hyperventilating? Don't know, and honestly, don't care. What was indicated was pretty minor, and not worth the phone call.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...rn/3198310002/
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We wrap them in a mandatory car seat until they are 4 or 5
We are required to insure them until they are 26.
We arrest parents who don't supervise their kids on a playground 2 blocks from the house.
We then give them technologies so they stay in their rooms and don't bother the adults.
We teach them about sex before they are old enough to care what it is.
We don't teach them why.
Few learn the difference between failure and failure to try.
After all we must worry about their self esteem.
So few know the glory and pride of achievement over obstacles and fear.

None know the fear of a leather belt clearing 7 loops in a pair of wrangler jeans.
So accountability is out of the equation.

And Yet,,,; some elitist experts want them the privilige to vote as early as 16.

Why is the result "shocking?"

The other day I asked my surly 13 year old grandson if he knew what "Corporal Punishment" was. He was unclear. So I told him to Google it. My spare the rod wife scowled at me. Later however, his disposition improved.
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We wrap them in a mandatory car seat until they are 4 or 5
We are required to insure them until they are 26.
We arrest parents who don't supervise their kids on a playground 2 blocks from the house.
We then give them technologies so they stay in their rooms and don't bother the adults.
We teach them about sex before they are old enough to care what it is.
We don't teach them why.
Few learn the difference between failure and failure to try.
After all we must worry about their self esteem.
So few know the glory and pride of achievement over obstacles and fear.

None know the fear of a leather belt clearing 7 loops in a pair of wrangler jeans.
So accountability is out of the equation.

And Yet,,,; some elitist experts want them the privilige to vote as early as 16.

Why is the result "shocking?"

The other day I asked my surly 13 year old grandson if he knew what "Corporal Punishment" was. He was unclear. So I told him to Google it. My spare the rod wife scowled at me. Later however, his disposition improved.
I will also add to your list that as a nation, we have moved away from God in our lives outside of an hour or so on Sunday mornings, if even then. Without that moral foundation, we as a nation, are dooming younger generations. And we wonder why hatred is so common in our society.
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We wrap them in a mandatory car seat until they are 4 or 5
We are required to insure them until they are 26.
We arrest parents who don't supervise their kids on a playground 2 blocks from the house.
We then give them technologies so they stay in their rooms and don't bother the adults.
We teach them about sex before they are old enough to care what it is.
We don't teach them why.
Few learn the difference between failure and failure to try.
After all we must worry about their self esteem.
So few know the glory and pride of achievement over obstacles and fear.

None know the fear of a leather belt clearing 7 loops in a pair of wrangler jeans.
So accountability is out of the equation.

And Yet,,,; some elitist experts want them the privilige to vote as early as 16.

Why is the result "shocking?"

The other day I asked my surly 13 year old grandson if he knew what "Corporal Punishment" was. He was unclear. So I told him to Google it. My spare the rod wife scowled at me. Later however, his disposition improved.
Having never been the recipient of 'the belt', but having seen the results with my siblings, I cannot condone that. A spanking, actual discipline, grounding, privileges taken away, things of that sort I agree with, but even those are not considered appropriate in todays non-parental roles. But the punishments aside, allowing a child to feel and understand failure, to deal with their lives as they will have to deal with it as adults, teaches them more IMO, then 'the belt'.

It's bad enough to see 'helicopter parents' on minors, but once your child reaches their majority, to continue is doing them a disservice of huge proportions.

And what we see today of the SJW's, is one of the results of that.
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Having never been the recipient of 'the belt', but having seen the results with my siblings, I cannot condone that. A spanking, actual discipline, grounding, privileges taken away, things of that sort I agree with, but even those are not considered appropriate in todays non-parental roles. But the punishments aside, allowing a child to feel and understand failure, to deal with their lives as they will have to deal with it as adults, teaches them more IMO, then 'the belt'.

It's bad enough to see 'helicopter parents' on minors, but once your child reaches their majority, to continue is doing them a disservice of huge proportions.

And what we see today of the SJW's, is one of the results of that.
I'm not talking abut "beating" our children. But reasoning with a7-13 year old sometimes come to a point of failure. We owe them a better future which comes with understanding that exceeding limitations despite arguments and advice to the contrary sometimes means pain in real life.

I never had to use my belt. But after a few hand spankings they didn't believe was possible, knowing I would go there was all that was needed. It's not a question of fear, but of respect. One does not fear falling as much as they respect the laws that will inflict pain if you get careless with altitude
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I'm not talking abut "beating" our children. But reasoning with a7-13 year old sometimes come to a point of failure. We owe them a better future which comes with understanding that exceeding limitations despite arguments and advice to the contrary sometimes means pain in real life.

I never had to use my belt. But after a few hand spankings they didn't believe was possible, knowing I would go there was all that was needed. It's not a question of fear, but of respect. One does not fear falling as much as they respect the laws that will inflict pain if you get careless with altitude

I forgot to add,,,;
The same holds true for "attitude."
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Timely article, at least for me. Had a parent of a 30 year old employee call in about their child's issue on Monday... first, I was flabberghasted. Then politely told the mother that since they are not our employee, I could not discuss the issue with them.

She didn't take that very well. But, interestingly enough, the actual employee never came to me about the problem. Mom hyperventilating? Don't know, and honestly, don't care. What was indicated was pretty minor, and not worth the phone call.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...rn/3198310002/
I've met people like that. Not very many and they do stand out in a crowd though usually no one says anything to them about it.
today's lack of skills is due to technology to a great extent and the 80s generation's anti-parent stance. so what I learned from my folks didn't get passed on except for what was really important I had to beat into them.
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Having never been the recipient of 'the belt', but having seen the results with my siblings, I cannot condone that. A spanking, actual discipline, grounding, privileges taken away, things of that sort I agree with, but even those are not considered appropriate in todays non-parental roles. But the punishments aside, allowing a child to feel and understand failure, to deal with their lives as they will have to deal with it as adults, teaches them more IMO, then 'the belt'.

It's bad enough to see 'helicopter parents' on minors, but once your child reaches their majority, to continue is doing them a disservice of huge proportions.

And what we see today of the SJW's, is one of the results of that.
different kids are different
some don't respond to any kind of physical torture but taking away privileges-and sticking by it makes them remember. others you just have to look cross and they get the message; still others have to have the sht smacked out of them.
But then not everyone had my kids or my discernment so I guess it's unfair for me to judge others.
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different kids are different
some don't respond to any kind of physical torture but taking away privileges-and sticking by it makes them remember. others you just have to look cross and they get the message; still others have to have the sht smacked out of them.
But then not everyone had my kids or my discernment so I guess it's unfair for me to judge others.
While my behind learned many lessons by my mother's hand, I actually learned some serious lessons from a friend's mother, who, after discovering what I and her daughter had gotten into that week (it changed weekly, lol) would sit me down, talk to me like an adult without threat of punishment or notification to the parents, explained the possible repercussions of our actions if we had been caught by authorities, then stuck a plate of pasta or fresh baked goodies in front of me and would say "eat! You need your strength to make your life right!"

And then I would go home to face the parental wrath..... back when the neighborhood grapevine worked faster than your feet could carry you...
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I forgot to add,,,;
The same holds true for "attitude."
might be a matter of altitude depending on how bad the crime was.

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