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Default Re: Alec Baldwin: ‘We Need to Overthrow the Government of Donald Trump’

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I was obviously responding to the thread "Title"

Which is why they should properly reflect the subject, and intent, of the OP.

BTW, In our Constitutional Democracy, we do not ever "overthrow" our President, We replace them with an election.
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Most of the headlines today are click bait and at OW we have to adhere to the rule of posting correct title so there are no duplicates.

So we should try to read a bit of the article and comment accordingly.
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Default Re: Alec Baldwin: ‘We Need to Overthrow the Government of Donald Trump’

Has Alec put out a decent flick in the past decade? We know he's good at assaulting peeps, but the whole acting thing is a little iffy.
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Well reflect on this:
Most of the headlines today are click bait and at OW we have to adhere to the rule of posting correct title so there are no duplicates.

So we should try to read a bit of the article and comment accordingly.
OW obviously means NOW
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Default Re: Alec Baldwin: ‘We Need to Overthrow the Government of Donald Trump’

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Has Alec put out a decent flick in the past decade? We know he's good at assaulting peeps, but the whole acting thing is a little iffy.
He's a actor, writer, producer, and comedian
he's acted in around 100 films, about 50 tv shows and more than 10 stage productions.


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Framing John DeLorean, directed by Don Argott and Sheena Joyce, is set to premiere at the Tribeca Film Festival. It opens in theaters June 7.
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Default Re: Alec Baldwin: ‘We Need to Overthrow the Government of Donald Trump’

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Well reflect on this:
Most of the headlines today are click bait and at OW we have to adhere to the rule of posting correct title so there are no duplicates.

So we should try to read a bit of the article and comment accordingly.
Yes, reading a bit of the article is a good idea, reading all of it is a better one. Instead of blindly supporting Alec Baldwin because he furthers the Orange Man Bad stupidity, it would have been useful to read this part of the article as well.

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Baldwin, who has a notorious history of making bigoted, homophobic and misogynistic comments, to speak at a dinner named for progressive icon Eleanor Roosevelt, and at the height of the #MeToo moment. In November 2013, liberal icon and African-American activist Ta-Nehisi Coates wrote an article for the Atlantic titled simply: “Yeah, Alec Baldwin Really Is A Bigot.”
Once again the Resistance abandons any pretense of adherence to principle, all is forgiven when it's attack Trump.
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Default Re: Alec Baldwin: ‘We Need to Overthrow the Government of Donald Trump’

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Well reflect on this:
Most of the headlines today are click bait and at OW we have to adhere to the rule of posting correct title so there are no duplicates.

So we should try to read a bit of the article and comment accordingly.
I did read the article. The headline was done by the OP.

Clickbait is why the forum rules exist silly girl.

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He's a actor, writer, producer, and comedian
he's acted in around 100 films, about 50 tv shows and more than 10 stage productions.


this looks promising:

Framing John DeLorean, directed by Don Argott and Sheena Joyce, is set to premiere at the Tribeca Film Festival. It opens in theaters June 7.
Alec is an actor. And has been a good one at times. The "Hunt for red October" comes to mind. But as a person, he is still an @sshole.
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Default Re: Alec Baldwin: ‘We Need to Overthrow the Government of Donald Trump’

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Here in the U.S. many people on the left and right support overthrowing the elected president of Venezuela.

At least Baldwin is consistent.
Promoting overthrow of elected gov't because he thinks it's better, here and/or aboard. [Bold in original]
The two are hardly analogous.

Although it is true that many Americans do not like the policies of Nicolas Maduro--as well as his anti-American venom--that is not the only reason that we want Juan Guaido to take the reins of government.

The election (showing Maduro to be the winner) was no more free and fair than, say, the "elections" in the former Soviet Union.

And the US is hardly the only country to recognize Guaido as the interim president of Venezuela. Canada also recognizes Guaido--as does just about every European country.

In fact, Wikipedia even notes that "[t]he National Assembly declared Maduro illegitimate on the day of his second inauguration, citing the 1999 Constitution of Venezuela enacted under Hugo Chávez, Maduro's predecessor." [Bold added]

Whether one likes Donald Trump or not (and his personality and temperament leave a lot to be desired, in my opinion), there is surely nothing uncertain about the legitimacy of his victory in 2016.
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The two are hardly analogous.

Although it is true that many Americans do not like the policies of Nicolas Maduro--as well as his anti-American venom--that is not the only reason that we want Juan Guaido to take the reins of government.

The election (showing Maduro to be the winner) was no more free and fair than, say, the "elections" in the former Soviet Union.

And the US is hardly the only country to recognize Guaido as the interim president of Venezuela. Canada also recognizes Guaido--as does just about every European country.

In fact, Wikipedia even notes that "[t]he National Assembly declared Maduro illegitimate on the day of his second inauguration, citing the 1999 Constitution of Venezuela enacted under Hugo Chávez, Maduro's predecessor." [Bold added]

Whether one likes Donald Trump or not (and his personality and temperament leave a lot to be desired, in my opinion), there is surely nothing uncertain about the legitimacy of his victory in 2016.
somehow i suspect that most people who've called for the overthrow of Maduro didn't 1st consult the Venezuelan constitution. Or ask who was the head of the national assembly. they followed president Trump, the Neo-cons and NeoLib "leadership" chants for it. (many of whom admit --have been caught saying-- that it's becasue of Oil, (imperialism) not becasue of socialism or the suffering of the Venezuelan people. lots of countries have starving people with brutal dictators, ever hear of North Korea a few nations in Africa, some eastern Europe)

And if anyone reads the U.S. constitution they would know that there's NOTHING about Maduro's actions that would merit or allow any U.S. president to send our military to Venezuela. And no threat to the U.S. that would justify the congress to call for it.

that's If folks want to be sticklers for national constitutions that is.
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somehow i suspect that most people who've called for the overthrow of Maduro didn't 1st consult the Venezuelan constitution. Or ask who was the head of the national assembly. they followed president Trump, the Neo-cons and NeoLib "leadership" chants for it. (many of whom admit --have been caught saying-- that it's becasue of Oil, (imperialism) not becasue of socialism or the suffering of the Venezuelan people. lots of countries have starving people with brutal dictators, ever hear of North Korea a few nations in Africa, some eastern Europe)

And if anyone reads the U.S. constitution they would know that there's NOTHING about Maduro's actions that would merit or allow any U.S. president to send our military to Venezuela. And no threat to the U.S. that would justify the congress to call for it.

that's If folks want to be sticklers for national constitutions that is.
There is lots of speculation but no meaningful evidence of the US planning to invade Venezuela. Fired Assistant FBI director Andrew McCabe claims to have spoken to an unnamed FBI agent who claimed to have heard the President talk about a military invasion. The claim in McCabe's book is so tenuous not even the Resistance media has made much of a story of it.

Instead of a military invasion the US has led a coalition of countries assemble humanitarian aid, mostly food, to relieve the terrible conditions brought on by the failed socialist government of Maduro. This caravan of humanitarian relief was brutally attacked by Maduro backed thugs when they attempted to cross the border into Venezuela. The so-called duly elected president of Venezuela would rather let his own people starve than risk having them fed by international aid.

The latest solution proposed by Resistance Democrats to stem the tide of illegal aliens flooding across our Southern border is a vague policy of the US magically fixing conditions in their home countries so they will not want to come here. Yet when the Trump administration leads a multinational effort to feed starving Venezuelans it's meddling in the internal affairs of another country. Let them eat cake, Orange Man bad.
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