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Old 02-14-2019, 03:33 PM
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The Adult children and grandparents should not be eligible for chain migration.Your sob story is irrelevant because if you are a foreigner then coming to this country is privilege not a right.
The actual Right is the Right of Liberty that applies to all people and not just to Americans. It was the "Right of Liberty of the Person" that the founders used in objecting to any restrictions upon immigration to the United States and why the Constitution never granted the power to regulate immigration to the federal government.

Chain immigration is a reference to those that were literally brought to the United States in chains as property (slaves) and it's a disgusting racist term.
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Old 02-14-2019, 03:53 PM
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interesting idea that family bonds are so strong that some leave their family to immigrate to another country then we’re supposed to believe that the only way for that family to keep their bond is to allow for chain immigration. how about not abandoning your family in the first place? problem solved. family bond stays intact.
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The actual Right is the Right of Liberty that applies to all people and not just to Americans. It was the "Right of Liberty of the Person" that the founders used in objecting to any restrictions upon immigration to the United States and why the Constitution never granted the power to regulate immigration to the federal government.

Chain immigration is a reference to those that were literally brought to the United States in chains as property (slaves) and it's a disgusting racist term.
Gollee, but you babble.

That all important document reads We the people of the United States of America. There is nothing that I can find that extends that to the Right of Liberty of the Person any person. The feds are charged with fighting the wars, protecting the borders, and facilitating interstate travel. They are also required to conduct a census for the purpose of apportioning.

No Shiva, chain migration does not refer to the slave issue. But to reiterate, you're just babbling.
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Old 02-14-2019, 09:07 PM
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Switching to a merit based immigration system and cutting off the chain migration of relatives who are not spouses or minor children is what most conservatives who are not open border advocates have been advocating for. This isn't a new idea. Even a RINO like Trump has advocated for it. I don't think you will get the Nancy Pelosis, George Bushes, Lindsey Grahams, and Chuck Schumers out there to agree to that. Its a good idea but restrictions should be put in place so that companies can't do what Disney did. Legal immigrants shouldn't be used so that companies can hire cheaper workers.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/u...lacements.html
It actually doesn't stress switching altogether keeping family migration but just immediate family. I think Americans would get behind that and politicians would have to follow.
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Any person who crosses our borders for any reason other than a few days of tourism should be here because we need them, not because they need us.

We cannot sustain being the world's mommy.
unless of course they are refugees.
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I wish the racist horseshlt about white protestants from Europe would cease.
me too. if y'all just loved brown folk more maybe that would help you with it.
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me too. if y'all just loved brown folk more maybe that would help you with it.
So are you saying that all illegal immigrants are "Brown Folk?" I don't know why it matters what the color of their skin is. Illegal should extend to all colors shouldn't it?

White Europeans should be under the same laws as "The Brown folks"
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The actual Right is the Right of Liberty that applies to all people and not just to Americans. It was the "Right of Liberty of the Person" that the founders used in objecting to any restrictions upon immigration to the United States and why the Constitution never granted the power to regulate immigration to the federal government.

Chain immigration is a reference to those that were literally brought to the United States in chains as property (slaves) and it's a disgusting racist term.
So your trying to say that everyone on the planet is to be protected under the rights of America? That sounds a little crazy if you ask me.

I guess we also owe the whole planet Medicare, Medicaid, Food stamps, and a right to vote in our elections also, right?

Tell me, does your hypothesis include Russians?
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Chain immigration is a reference to those that were literally brought to the United States in chains as property (slaves) and it's a disgusting racist term.


Good God Shiva, please look stuff up before you post as facts.

The term "Chain Migration" has absolutely NOTHING to do with slavery. Except in your militant partisan mind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_migration
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So your trying to say that everyone on the planet is to be protected under the rights of America? That sounds a little crazy if you ask me.

I guess we also owe the whole planet Medicare, Medicaid, Food stamps, and a right to vote in our elections also, right?

Tell me, does your hypothesis include Russians?
OK, almost snorted water up the back of my nose.

As the saying goes, that one is going to leave a bruise.....
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