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I suppose they are just like anyone who lacking love in their upbringing or facing hardship joins drug gangs or even isis but all are like snakes. look but don't get too near

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In an interview with Pacific Standard, Jvonne Hubbard said her father Joel losing his job “absolutely” impacted his decision to start hosting KKK meetings in her childhood home in the mountains of Western North Carolina.
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“Economic hardship directly contributed to the hate and anger in my childhood home,” she said. “In my case, my father was also an alcoholic—another problem that disproportionately affects poor communities.”

Her father’s alcoholism, Hubbard said, “was both a problem itself and a catalyst for further troubles” that made him “driven to commit violence and spew hatred.”

Hubbard — whose book White Sheets to Brown Babies documents her life with and escape from her father’s tenure in the KKK — noted that although her father ostensibly disavowed the group after being shot multiple times in a domestic dispute, the racism remained.

That same racism cropped back up when calls for the Confederate flag to be removed from government grounds after white supremacist Dylann Roof killed nine people at the Mother Emanuel AME Zion Church in Charleston, South Carolina.

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The writer linked “neo-Confederate” movements — those that seek to preserve the history of the Confederacy in the South via the rebel battle flag and monuments — to white nationalism.

“To me, it seems like white nationalists and neo-Confederates have the same outlandish agenda: to keep stoking the flames of something that is, and should be, dead and gone,” Hubbard said. “I’m not sure I can point to any other point in history where a failed rebellion is allowed to keep flying its ‘battle’ flag without it being considered treason.”
Hopefully some good will come of her retelling. I wish her well.
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I suppose they are just like anyone who lacking love in their upbringing or facing hardship joins drug gangs or even isis but all are like snakes. look but don't get too near

Hopefully some good will come of her retelling. I wish her well.
Do I need to bring up a certain statue in London?

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George Washington. American tourists are often surprised that there is a statue of their first president in the heart of London at Trafalgar Square. The statue shows Washington holding a bundle of 13 fasces which represent the original 13 states of the newly created United States of America.
History acknowledges certain people and events that have formed this country. It has nothing to do with continuing bias or bigotry (for most) it has to do with knowing what made this country what it is.

Some hoping certain things would go away and reinventing what actually happened, think they can change what happened. Some of us want to make sure the truth is known, as negative as it may be BY TODAYS STANDARDS, does not change what existed.
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History acknowledges certain people and events that have formed this country. It has nothing to do with continuing bias or bigotry (for most) it has to do with knowing what made this country what it is.

Some hoping certain things would go away and reinventing what actually happened, think they can change what happened. Some of us want to make sure the truth is known, as negative as it may be BY TODAYS STANDARDS, does not change what existed.
What does your reply have to do with this thread subject?
did you accidentally post that in the wrong thread?
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What does your reply have to do with this thread subject?
did you accidentally post that in the wrong thread?
Seriously, do you not read what you post????

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The writer linked “neo-Confederate” movements — those that seek to preserve the history of the Confederacy in the South via the rebel battle flag and monuments — to white nationalism.

“To me, it seems like white nationalists and neo-Confederates have the same outlandish agenda: to keep stoking the flames of something that is, and should be, dead and gone,” Hubbard said. “I’m not sure I can point to any other point in history where a failed rebellion is allowed to keep flying its ‘battle’ flag without it being considered treason.”
The writer herself made a point about people who appreciate the history and it's effect of the Civil War, from a negative angle. I bring it up from the historical angle, and you say what I posted has nothing to do with this thread?
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The writer herself made a point about people who appreciate the history and it's effect of the Civil War, from a negative angle. I bring it up from the historical angle, and you say what I posted has nothing to do with this thread?
no wonder I didn't follow your train here. When you talk about a george Washington statue compared to a traitor's statue. Sorry, I asked.
What angle could you possibly spin on the Civil war other than negative?
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no wonder I didn't follow your train here. When you talk about a george Washington statue compared to a traitor's statue. Sorry, I asked.
What angle could you possibly spin on the Civil war other than negative?
To the British Crown George Washington was a traitor. The British had a history of hanging or worse as the penalty for declaring independence.

The lingering animosity from the American revolution led to the war of 1812. That's hardly evidence the British didn't treat Washington as a traitor.
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no wonder I didn't follow your train here. When you talk about a george Washington statue compared to a traitor's statue. Sorry, I asked.
What angle could you possibly spin on the Civil war other than negative?
Me Dios.

If you can't figure it out, then me explaining it won't be doing much good either.
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To the British Crown George Washington was a traitor. The British had a history of hanging or worse as the penalty for declaring independence.

The lingering animosity from the American revolution led to the war of 1812. That's hardly evidence the British didn't treat Washington as a traitor.
America won both wars and was recognized as an ally by the time that statue was put up. Colonialism was also revealed to have been a very bad idea.
I have no problem with the statues but I am not the descendant of a slave. OUt odf respect and human decency, it is time we lept into the modern world where civilized society doesn't honor slavery.
But the point the woman was making I think was that poor or undereducated people want something to latch onto and someone to look down upon.
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America won both wars and was recognized as an ally by the time that statue was put up. Colonialism was also revealed to have been a very bad idea.
I have no problem with the statues but I am not the descendant of a slave. OUt odf respect and human decency, it is time we lept into the modern world where civilized society doesn't honor slavery.
But the point the woman was making I think was that poor or undereducated people want something to latch onto and someone to look down upon.
Do remember that phrase the next time someone with three degrees and a mountain of college debt calls other members of this country 'deplorables'.

That is so false it almost hurts. Bigotry, racism and the like exist at all levels of education, monetary standing, and social position.

I am a descendent of non-slave holding ancestor who came over with Peter Styvesant. What the hell that has to do with anything, only you know.
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Do remember that phrase the next time someone with three degrees and a mountain of college debt calls other members of this country 'deplorables'.

That is so false it almost hurts. Bigotry, racism and the like exist at all levels of education, monetary standing, and social position.

I am a descendent of non-slave holding ancestor who came over with Peter Styvesant. What the hell that has to do with anything, only you know.
She was discussing why people join/identify with the klan.
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