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Now while the Resistance and their media toadies have filled countless drool buckets elevating gossip writer Bob Woodward to sainthood it is worthwhile to look back just a few years to remember what the transparently partisan media was saying about Woodward.

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The latest entrant in the Mistakes Were Made sweepstakes regarding C-Plus Augustus's blundering in Iraq is journalistic giant—and stenographer to the powerful—Bob Woodward, who stopped by Fox News Sunday this weekend because he is a big-time Beltway 'ho who doesn't care what kind of riff-raff leaves the money on the dresser these days. Anyway, Bob wants to assure us that the leadership of the late Avignon Presidency were babes in the woods.
My goodness, from a whore stenographer to the powerful to the paragon of truth in only 3 years. Oh wait, there is more.

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Bob Woodward in the above quote sounds like someone waiting for that check from the Nigerian prince to clear.)
Got that? Woodward is incredibly gullible, except that now he is a relentless investigator absolutely dedicated to finding the truth.

Same writer, same technique, same lack of attribution but when it clashes with the received wisdom of the Left, Woodward is nothing but a gullible dupe, a propagandist for the powerful. But we ought to believe Woodward without question when he prints anti Trump gossip.

https://www-esquire-com.cdn.ampproje...ive-talking%2F
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Now while the Resistance and their media toadies have filled countless drool buckets elevating gossip writer Bob Woodward to sainthood it is worthwhile to look back just a few years to remember what the transparently partisan media was saying about Woodward.



My goodness, from a whore stenographer to the powerful to the paragon of truth in only 3 years. Oh wait, there is more.



Got that? Woodward is incredibly gullible, except that now he is a relentless investigator absolutely dedicated to finding the truth.

Same writer, same technique, same lack of attribution but when it clashes with the received wisdom of the Left, Woodward is nothing but a gullible dupe, a propagandist for the powerful. But we ought to believe Woodward without question when he prints anti Trump gossip.

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An opinion article from Esqiure dug up from three years ago isn't evidence that much of the media totally hated Bob Woodward until today.
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I heard they're putting the book between Green Eggs and Ham and Alice in Wonderland in the bookstores.
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An opinion article from Esqiure dug up from three years ago isn't evidence that much of the media totally hated Bob Woodward until today.
Interesting choice of words for your strawman. The Resistance is animated by visceral hatred for Trump thus criticism of Woodward's credibility is hate as well.

When Woodward's so-called meticulous research contradicts the "Bush lied kids died" mantra, he has no credibility. But he is the revered saint of Watergate fame when prints an extended gossip column targeting Trump. His credibility is dependent on concurring with any and all criticisms of Repulican Presidents.

Just like Woodward's book the Steele dossier was deemed credible by virtue of the author's credibility. It shows just how dangerous the Resistance mindless hatred is that it was used to obtain a warrant to spy on the political opposition. Woodward's book will be accepted as justification for Resistance calls to invoke the 25th amendment overturning the 2016 election.
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Now while the Resistance and their media toadies have filled countless drool buckets elevating gossip writer Bob Woodward to sainthood it is worthwhile to look back just a few years to remember what the transparently partisan media was saying about Woodward.



My goodness, from a whore stenographer to the powerful to the paragon of truth in only 3 years. Oh wait, there is more.



Got that? Woodward is incredibly gullible, except that now he is a relentless investigator absolutely dedicated to finding the truth.

Same writer, same technique, same lack of attribution but when it clashes with the received wisdom of the Left, Woodward is nothing but a gullible dupe, a propagandist for the powerful. But we ought to believe Woodward without question when he prints anti Trump gossip.

https://www-esquire-com.cdn.ampproje...ive-talking%2F
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The point was not the book, but how the media gives itself whiplash when it comes to Woodward...Just a few, short years ago, he was lambasted by the media because he dared to write a book on the Obama Administration...

The Mainstream Media Thought Bob Woodward Was A Hack, Until His Trump-Bashing Book Came Out

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"The latest in a long string of questionable journalistic episodes."

"It reveals a grotesquely swollen ego fed by 40 years of hero worship."

"Bob Woodward's plunge into sheer hackery."

"Why does Bob Woodward get to lie and still be Bob Woodward?"

"As an analyst, Woodward is a particular kind of awful."

"He's the dumb blonde of American journalism."

"Woodward, despite filing one dubious story after another, retains his position as an eminence grise of DC reporters."

"It is relentlessly biased against the president."

"Illuminates his role as an Establishment cipher."

Every one of the quotes above — every single one — was penned by prominent, mainstream journalists. (Arianna Huffington, founder of Pulitzer-prize-winning Huffington Post, is the one who called Woodward a "dumb blonde.") There are many more attacks where those came from.

In fact, the mainstream press had been on something of a campaign to tear down Woodward's credibility for years.

During the Bush and Obama administrations, Woodward-bashing articles ran in Newsweek, New York magazine, The Huffington Post, The New Republic and many others, with headlines like:

"Bob Woodward's Credibility Finally Hits The Ocean Floor."

"The Myth of Bob Woodward: Why Is This Man an American Icon."

"What The Hell Happened to Bob Woodward?"

"Woodward as Journalistic Hero: The Real State of Denial."

"The Long, Long Fall of Bob Woodward."

"The troubling things I learned when I re-reported Bob Woodward's book on John Belushi."

Woodward's Fall From Liberal Media Grace

Why the brutal attacks from journalists on one of their own? And the Pulitzer-Prize-Winning-Reporter-Who-Brought-Down-Nixon-And-Inspired-Legions-To-Become-Journalists no less?

Well, back in the early-2000s, Woodward committed the cardinal journalistic sin of writing a couple books that were more or less sympathetic toward the Bush administration. He later wrote books bashing the administration, but that wasn't enough to redeem himself.

Then, during the Obama years, Woodward doubled down on his sinful ways by daring to criticize President Obama, challenging the truthfulness of some of Obama's claims, and once suggesting that an Obama administration official tried to intimidate him.

If there's one thing you can't do to be a journalist in good standing, it's write anything that makes a Republican look good. Or that makes a Democrat — especially Obama — look bad. Even if the reporting is solid, and the reporter is Bob Woodward. It doesn't matter.

The message to journalists everywhere is clear. No one, not even Woodward, can stray from journalism's liberal dogma and keep their reputations intact.

But now Woodward has written a book that makes Trump look even worse than the Washington Establishment had suspected.

So, all his past sins are forgiven. His reporting is impeccable. His facts unassailable. Any challenges to Woodward or his craft are deeply offensive.
Woodward is the writer's version of John McCain...

When he says something against a Democrat, the media yells he's a radical extremist who shouldn't be held credible, but when he says something against a Republican, the same media yells "He's a hero!!!"...
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Now while the Resistance and their media toadies have filled countless drool buckets elevating gossip writer Bob Woodward to sainthood it is worthwhile to look back just a few years to remember what the transparently partisan media was saying about Woodward.



My goodness, from a whore stenographer to the powerful to the paragon of truth in only 3 years. Oh wait, there is more.



Got that? Woodward is incredibly gullible, except that now he is a relentless investigator absolutely dedicated to finding the truth.

Same writer, same technique, same lack of attribution but when it clashes with the received wisdom of the Left, Woodward is nothing but a gullible dupe, a propagandist for the powerful. But we ought to believe Woodward without question when he prints anti Trump gossip.

https://www-esquire-com.cdn.ampproje...ive-talking%2F
So it looks like you are disagreeing with Republicans here in order to discredit Bob Woodward?
Aligning yourself with a guy whose opinion is X, Y, and Z, but that's just his opinion.
You're also backing Joe Wilson (husband of Valery Plame who was outed as an operative after her husband wrote there were no WMD's)?

So different people had and still have their opinion of going to war in Iraq and each mounts their evidence for believing their view.
Also Woodward said " And if you try to summarize why we went into Iraq, it was momentum".
Which is undoubtedly true.
Sorry but you and your google search result you copied and pasted w/o reading the article are fails.
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The point was not the book, but how the media gives itself whiplash when it comes to Woodward...
Personally I'm not interested in whether the media gives itself whiplash or not. I'm not even particularly concerned about who the author is and if they made past mistakes.

I'm interested in the accuracy of the contents of the book. From what I understand the research was extensive, all of the interviews were recording. and the reporting is on what's coming from inside the White House. From what I know the contents are a very accurate depiction of what's going on inside of the White House as told by those inside the White House.

That matters.

I wouldn't expect to read anything that conservative editorial boards across the country hadn't previously told us during the Republican primaries and 2016 Presidential campaign. By just knowing Donald Trump's history they universally stated that Trump was unqualified and unfit to be president. That the White House staff has figured this out in not surprising and this has been leaking out of the White House since Trump took office.

"Unqualified and Unfit to be President" isn't something new to consider when we're talking about Donald Trump and it doesn't matter who writes the book because that won't change.
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I'm interested in the accuracy of the contents of the book. From what I understand the research was extensive, all of the interviews were recording.
Then what you understand is false...

Every accusation was made NOT by the people saying it, but second-hand sources...

Any writer worth his/her weight in salt would've gone to the actual people quoted for confirmation, yet Woodward never did so...
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