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Old 08-10-2018, 11:42 AM
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Apparently, someone wanted to hear from these people as they keep inviting them to campus. But it is the "tolerant" left that seems to have trouble engaging in a debate with anyone with whom they disagree. Could it be that the left doesn't poses the intelligence to participate in an honest and well reasoned debate so they just show up and make robotic chants? At this point, there is no other logical reason for their behavior.
just as germans should welcome the nazi party to speak on their campuses
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just as germans should welcome the nazi party to speak on their campuses
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So, you are saying that only speech that YOU agree with should be allowed? What other groups of people should be banned? And what if you are not around to give approval, who should be then see when there is a question?
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the biggest hater of free speech is Donald J Trump.
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So, you are saying that only speech that YOU agree with should be allowed? What other groups of people should be banned? And what if you are not around to give approval, who should be then see when there is a question?
I'm saying there are such ideas as conservative thought vs Liberal thought. And throw in Libertarian , Greens, etc. Yes ideas should be presented from a broad spectrum.
What is unacceptable is a speech at a school/college by, for instance, a guy who thinks pedophilia is OK.
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Or they could be supported by the vice-chairman of the Democrat Party...

https://twitter.com/keithellison/sta...57342308147202



What's MORE important is the lack of denouncing Antifa from Democrats...

Every time someone on the Right does something bad, the media rushes to every Republican lawmaker demanding them to denounce those actions...

Democrats?...Not so much...
Hell, the Democrats will probably nominate Ellison to run in 2020.

I can see him now at his rallies surrounded by black robed, hooded and masked constituents.
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I'm saying there are such ideas as conservative thought vs Liberal thought. And throw in Libertarian , Greens, etc. Yes ideas should be presented from a broad spectrum.
What is unacceptable is a speech at a school/college by, for instance, a guy who thinks pedophilia is OK.
So, the first amendment only applies to speech that does not offend you? Got it.
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just as germans should welcome the nazi party to speak on their campuses
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So why are we not shutting down AntiFA? They are more like the Nazis then anyone. They bring hate and violence with them everywhere they go, and unlike the White Racist types, AntiFA is held up by Democrats as champions.

They are welcomed by Democrats, funded by Democrats, and loved by Democrats.
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So, the first amendment only applies to speech that does not offend you? Got it.
We sensible people won't invite a pedo apologist to speak. Has nothing to do with free speech. When you advocate criminality you lose that right.
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So why are we not shutting down AntiFA? They are more like the Nazis then anyone. They bring hate and violence with them everywhere they go, and unlike the White Racist types, AntiFA is held up by Democrats as champions.

They are welcomed by Democrats, funded by Democrats, and loved by Democrats.
From what I understand antifa means anti fascism. that would equal anti suppression of speech and other freedoms. I don't know enough about this group nor do I care to look into them further.
Do you advocate for pedophiles?
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But the are very prominent whenever a conservative speaker shows up on a college campus. If they did the same to liberal speakers, you may have a point.
Is your reference is to CAL, and Ms. Coulter?

If so, Campus Police and the Berkeley PD convinced the Administration to cancel her appearance. Ms. Coulter is an agent provocateur, and was sure to evoke strong emotions in most liberals, but the violence associated with any protest in Berkeley always brings out the street people, most are disaffected, not students, and see legit protesters as cover to vandalize, steal and yes, defecate on the street.

She was invited by the Young Republican's, students attending CAL. They knew Ms. Coulter and the other guy whose name escapes me, are agent provocateurs and intent on getting the publicity to fill their wallets. Their ideas are well known by the left and the right, and are divisive to their core.
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