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Old 03-31-2018, 11:52 PM
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The Democrats are doing what Hitler did - he used the youths to disarm and control the people.
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I didn't see any lies, but I understand that those on the left hate to be confronted with facts they cannot dispute.
Pretty sure not wanting be shot in school is an "extreme" idea from a "moron", nor is David Hogg opposed to the 2nd Amendment. Most Americans, including gun owners are for reasonable gun control laws in order to try to keep the worst of the worst from starting another massacre. Likewise, most Americans, including the Soros-paid crisis actors aka the survivors of these school shootings, aren't for banning all guns and totally disarming America. Hairy, and unfortunately too many adults on the right, are spreading lies about these kids and insulting them like a bunch of bullies. It is pathetic.

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Ignoring the history of what happens to people when means of self defense are made illegal (like what happened to people under Hitler and Stalin to name just a couple) and marching to have their rights taken away isn't savvy; it is extremely stupid.
Nobody is saying you don't have a right to self-defense, and no one is trying to make self-defense illegal, much less through the use of firearms. That's not an argument anyone is making.

Why is it that every single attempt at gun law reform is met the same slippery slope straight to Hitler?

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The Democrats are doing what Hitler did - he used the youths to disarm and control the people.
Also Right-wingers: "Liberals just call everyone who they don't like a Nazi."

But keep it up. Comparing teens marching against gun violence to Hitler Youth is a good look. It'll win you a lot of those young voters, surely.
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Pretty sure not wanting be shot in school is an "extreme" idea from a "moron", nor is David Hogg opposed to the 2nd Amendment. Most Americans, including gun owners are for reasonable gun control laws in order to try to keep the worst of the worst from starting another massacre. Likewise, most Americans, including the Soros-paid crisis actors aka the survivors of these school shootings, aren't for banning all guns and totally disarming America. Hairy, and unfortunately too many adults on the right, are spreading lies about these kids and insulting them like a bunch of bullies. It is pathetic.



Nobody is saying you don't have a right to self-defense, and no one is trying to make self-defense illegal, much less through the use of firearms. That's not an argument anyone is making.

Why is it that every single attempt at gun law reform is met the same slippery slope straight to Hitler?



Also Right-wingers: "Liberals just call everyone who they don't like a Nazi."

But keep it up. Comparing teens marching against gun violence to Hitler Youth is a good look. It'll win you a lot of those young voters, surely.
What's disgusting is the exploitation of impressionable children by unscrupulous Democrats. The Parkland martyrs brigade is nothing but human shields to advance gun grabbing politicians list for political power. It doesn't matter that the so-called solutions the children are spouting aren't going to keep them safe and are going to erode not just 2A rights but a whole host of other rights as well. Sober discussion is out, all that matters are demands to "do something" because a crisis is a terrible thing to waste.

No one is allowed to critically examine the ineffectual and often contradictory ranting of David Hogg without being demonized as a tool of the NRA and being awash in the blood of innocent children. No one dares ask why children under 21 are unfit to purchase firearms they ought to be relied upon to dictate laws restricting 2A rights. In an earlier comment in this thread Hogg rails against the so-called school to prison pipeline ignoring the fact that the school district adopting a no reporting policy in response to this "problem" allowed the homicidal maniac to legally purchase firearms. Yet, we are supposed to accept new gun restrictions without ever recognizing the responsibility of failed Obama administration policy for the Parkland tragedy.

Who cares if any one of the school district, the FBI, or the sheriff's office hadn't failed miserably the slaughter could have been avoided. Never mind that had the school resource officer acted as he was trained the casualties would most likely been reduced significantly. The Parkland martyrs demand we keep schools as target rich environments and vilify law abiding gun owners.
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The passed Florida bill is 105 pages long, contains not examples of lessons learned from Parkland, but rather a litany of standard liberal talking points. The only thing new is a stopgap rebuttal to the suggestion that teachers be allowed to be armed if they so choose.

Both the Florida legislature busing and the national million kid march were put together, funded and implemented in a few days.

This protest had to have been planned and sitting on someone's desk for months waiting for a crisis to not let go to waste.

There's nothing in the protest to make anyone safer, but unless pro second advocates take a strong stance and draw a don't cross line in the sand, 75% of the arms will be gone in 10 years.

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These kids really have some of you guys on the right triggered, it's been a fun couple of weeks. Like watching a fool get puzzled and angry over a Chinese finger trap.
Not triggered, frustrated . . .

The Dems have now perfected this divisive, disgusting tactic, trotting out the devastated family members and friends of the victims to be the "face" of their gun control policy proposals. That gun rights supporters are made out to be the primary perpetrators of their misery (if not the direct cause of it) is reprehensible but sadly, very effective.

When faced with this wall of pity proxy policy presenters, an opponent of that policy cannot, even on the most logical level and in a most principled manner, question the proposed policy without being seen as attacking the victims and being labeled an insensitive, heartless monster willing to ignore piles of dead kids just so they can stroke their penis extensions.

If a gun rights supporter is willing to suffer that initial backlash their voice is quickly drowned out and dismissed as a legitimate, competent party to discuss the policy . . . After all, can't "they" see what "they" have done??? Why should "we" listen to those gun worshipping, insensitive, uncaring, just want to see children die, Neanderthals?

This demonization and blame game is a most effective tactic to disuade opposition and to sway to your side, those who make quick, superficial decisions based in emotion. It allows the masses to avoid deeper consideration or even to apply logic and reason.

It doesn't matter that actual "school safety" is no longer being discussed. It doesn't matter that everyone agrees that the laws being promoted really won't impact mass shootings or school shootings. As usual, the Democrat's legislative blue-balls is the main motivator and poking the NRA and legal gun owners in the eye is the main objective.

As we see, this tactic is very easy to execute and has no drawbacks. The most empty-headed among the left can convincingly parrot the talking points and never need to worry that they will be forced to rebut any pointed challenge of the policy on a legal, logical or constitutional level. There is no need for them to accept the discussion "going there" because the urgent need and worthiness of the gun control proposals is accepted and promoted at face value -- because of this unassailable and oh-so emotionally compelling victim testimony.

This purely emotional appeal to change policy is perhaps the most despicable and reprehensible tactic to advance in a democracy but its effectiveness has been noted for a long, long time.

"The people as a body cannot deliberate. Nevertheless, they will feel an irresistible impulse to act, and their resolutions will be dictated to them by their demagogues... and the violent men, who are the most forward to gratify those passions, will be their favorites. What is called the government of the people is in fact too often the arbitrary power of such men. Here, then, we have the faithful portrait of a democracy."

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Reasonable people and those who cherish our Constitution's principles generally recoil at these tactics; the current crop of neofacist statist authoritarians in command of the Democrat party, not so much.

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And they're not going away, and they're savvy and smart enough to fight back now matter how hard y'all tug and tug about "muh guns" and Tide Pods.

I'm proud of them.
Today's anti-gun sickos draw energy from victims tears and bathe themselves in the sympathy extended to the victims and claim it is their unassailable mandate. These current anti-gunners are like alien soulsuckers, converting that stolen sympathy into mindless, blatantly hostile to liberty energy to act against fellow citizens.

The children are processing their pain as children do and lashing out as children do. The problem is, the histrionic emotional outbursts are being validated by adults simply because it can be appropriated to further the leftist agenda.

So, I'm not "triggered" by the children and their childish ways, I'm just disgusted by the adults who have become the puppetmasters.

The kids and their activism will not survive for long. Their ire will be re-directed to the adults who covet the sympathy they receive and use it to foster contempt for fellow citizens and want to cash it in to advance leftist policy.

You should be ashamed but instead you steal their pain and innocence to fuel the dehumanizing contempt and resentment you feel for conservatives.

The interplay here between these anti-gun leftists and these kids is like a pedophile and their victim . . .
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The Democrats are doing what Hitler did - he used the youths to disarm and control the people.
Mao did it more successfully than Hitler.
China is still Communist, China is still totalitarian rule. Germany is not.
David Hogg is naught but a useful idiot.
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Gawd I love this dude.

Veteran who lost leg after combat injury has epic message for David Hogg: ‘It’s not a gun problem’

Army veteran Derek Weida delivered an epic message to David Hogg in a Facebook rant on Friday, dishing out some wisdom the high school senior could take to heart.

Weida is a 29-year-old veteran of the 82nd Airborn who lost his leg after he was shot during a mission in Iraq in 2007. Now, Weida is a social media personality and fitness guru.

What did Weida say?

Weida began by explaining that certain experiences don’t make you an expert in what you experienced. For example, Weida noted that he’s no expert in war, guns or house raids, despite the fact he served in the military and went to war.

“So, I empathize with you and your peers because whereas I signed up to be shot at, none of you did,” Weida wrote.


“Now… Guns. Here’s my two cents: It’s not a gun problem, not a people problem, it’s a culture thing. Thing… Not problem. America loves guns. Accept that just like I had to accept that America loves God. Don’t ever be so quick to tell a whoooole lot of people how to live,” he added.

Weida even admitted he’s “actually kinda with the anti-gun folk,” but wrote that he’s learned a valuable lesson in life: it’s not wise to tell others how to live.

“I’ve learned that the way I live and the things I believe have nothing to do with how others want to live or what they want to believe.
I’m a well regulated idealist,” Weida said.

“The people you’re arguing against… It’s not even about the gun. It’s about the freedom and the right… And you can’t win an argument against that, nor should you (In most cases),” he explained.

In the end, Weida told Hogg it’s wise to think before you speak, and if you do speak, to not be a jerk.

“I guess I just want to say don’t be so quick to talk. Don’t be so quick to think YOU are somehow the ONE person who has things figured out. You want to make a change? Cool!! But… Try to be less of a c**t about it,” he wrote.



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I like what Crowder says about Hogg. He asks if it is ever appropriate to criticize a child and then explains why it is OK to criticize Hogg.

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Right-wingers attacking this kid with more conspiracies. Stay classy and keep attacking kids speaking out against gun violence, you winners you.
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I like what Crowder says about Hogg. He asks if it is ever appropriate to criticize a child and then explains why it is OK to criticize Hogg.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RKptf9Vu-U
The hypocrisy Hoggy exhibits is epic. You seriously can't make this sh*t up.

Hoggy - She gets this really threatening tone about us that we don't have. We love everybody. We're people that just want everyone to come together as Americans and solve this issue.

Got that? Hoggy's whining 'bout peeps using mean and threatening tones toward him and his fellow Tide Pod eaters. He claims to love everyone and just wants us all to come together and unite.

Noooooooow here's Hoggy again:

Hoggy - They're pathetic fuqers that want to keep killing our children. They could have blood from children splattered all over their faces and they wouldn't take action because all they see are those dollar signs. He does not give a fuq about these kids' lives at all. He only cares about his re-election. At this point it's like when your old-ass parents don't know how to send i-messages you're like, just give me the fuqing phone and I'll handle it and you get it done in one second. Sadly that's what we have to do with our government because our parents don't know how to use a fuqin' democracy.

ROFL!!!!! This is the kid libs have pinned their hopes to? A hypocritical laundry detergent-eater who uses tragedies to make money by selling Nazi armbands with his pro-Cuban lesbian friend while pumping his fist in the air in a Hitler salute?

And the hypocrisy doesn't stop there. Hoggy wants to take away one of your constitutional rights but flips the fuq out when you suggest makin' 'em wear see-through backpacks. Dude has no prob takin' away your second amendment but don't you dare think 'bout takin' away his first amendment.

But if you criticize him he'll run hide behind his age....
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