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I will say it's nice to have you back. You probably saw that Mikey, Walt and 300HH have been permanently banned.
Hey thanks. They all got banned? Damn!
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I'm not questioning your own personal experience with the people you know who are Trump supporters. I'm commenting on those other things that we can actually fact check, that you are spinning in ways that make you look dishonest.
I'm never dishonest, my friend.
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Hey thanks. They all got banned? Damn!
Yeah they were getting a little crazy. Redd had to put the Kybosh on them.
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Hey thanks. They all got banned? Damn!
I would like to stay and chat, but it's really beautiful outside, so I'm going out to work on my old tractor ( front loader ) that I bought for the Dog Ranch.

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I highly doubt that. Are they hating the economy?
thanks to Obama
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Are they hating the huge reduction in people coming here illegally?
which started way back under obama so no need for a wall

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Are they hating the fact that nothing has been found with Russian collusion?
except his son n l and two top advisors so far
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Everyone person I know that voted for Trump, is still happy they voted for him,
me too. around here it's not a thing but other places they may be reluctant to admit either

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and think he is doing an exceptional job, especially since he has unparalleled opposition, and is still winning.
I couldn't disagree with that more
including "unparalleled opposition"
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thanks to Obama


Funniest post of the week! Obama did such a good job for the economy, he implemented policies that for 8 years held the economy in check, limiting growth to under 2%. Then those same policies then kicked in only 2 months after he left office to set the economy in motion. Brilliant.
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The following is a list of things I've learned about Trump over recent months that make it clear he is worth dramatically less than he claims and think it is a real possibility that he has a net worth of less than $1 billion. None of the ten is definitive or proves he is worth a certain amount now or even that he could not be worth the $10 billion he claims. But taken together they show a chronic exaggeration of his wealth, repeated instances of financial reports that include almost comical efforts to inflate the numbers ...

Seeing as how a yuuuuge part of Donald Trump’s improbable rise rests on his alleged zillionaire status, voters have a right to know if he’s being truthful. All this speculation about his actual net worth could easily be laid to rest—if the candidate would simply release his tax returns like every other nominee has for decades.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...uidity-problem
Donald Trump, when asked, has replied that the value of his assets is subjective to whatever he says they are at the time. That he would grossly overstate his wealth is not unexpected and there are others that have been able to analyze how much Donald Trump is actually worth.

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Trump Organization worth one tenth of value previously reported
President's family business falls 37 places in ranking of largest privately held companies in New York

Thursday 16 November 2017 11:28 GMT

The Trump Organization in New York is reportedly worth one tenth of the value it previously claimed.

Donald Trump's family business had previously ranked near the top of Crain's New York Business' list of largest privately held companies.

But this year it has fallen from number three to number 40 after the President disclosed the organization's revenue to federal regulators.

While the Trump Organization claimed $9.5bn (£7.2bn) in sales last year, Mr Trump's public filings suggest revenues of less than a tenth of that amount, between $600m (£450m) and $700m (£530m).

“It was obviously important to Donald to have his company at the top of the list and I don't know why he felt that way but the numbers that he presented are just flagrantly untrue,” Aaron Elstein said.
Trump Organization worth one tenth of value previously reported | The Independent

This comes as no surprise to those that have followed Donald Trump's business career. Identical to his term as president he's always claimed credit for the accomplishments of others and blamed his own failures on someone else. Trump was always an extremely poor executive and it was actually that attribute that made him the ideal host for the Apprentice. He has always claimed the opposite but his record of business failures, not limited to just his corporate bankruptcies, paints the opposite picture of a man that makes extremely poor business decisions.

It is true that Donald Trump's history resulting in his loss of credit with the US banking industry. By 2008 no American banks were willing to loan money to Donald Trump. Fusion GPS tracked Trump's financial situation that took him to Germany seeking funding and that lead to connections with Russian money. It was the connection to Russian money, generally shunned by respectable enterprises, that lead to Fusion GPS hiring of Christopher Steele that was a recognized expert on Russia including the organized crime in Russia, and his very reliable contracts both in and out of the Russian government. Steele was hired to follow the money trail and everything else he learned from his source came as both a surprise and a shock to Steele.

In the 21 hours of closed door testimony before Congressional committees the owners of Fusion GPS advised the committees to follow the Trump money trail (and Fusion GPS was willing to share that with Congress) because they believed there was a creditable case of money laundering of Russian organized crime members by Donald Trump.

Fusion GPS has called upon these committees to release the transcripts but the Republicans in charge refuse to do so because of how damaging to Donald Trump the testimony is. Instead the Republicans seek to protect Trump by attacking the source of intelligence provided to the FBI by Christopher Steele that has an excellent historical record of providing very accurate intelligence to the FBI and the US State Department.

Trump is and has always been a con man in business. He's exaggerated his wealth for years because that false belief is a part of the con. It's the same tactic that's used by those promoting pyramid schemes that need to reflect the wealth that they sucker investors into believing they'll acquire. Trump's entire campaign for president was nothing but a con job and that has become so evident since he took office that no one with any sense at all can avoid seeing it. But as is often the case with those that have been conned they continue to believe even after the con artist is exposed because they're too proud to admit they've been suckered to begin with.
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Donald Trump, when asked, has replied that the value of his assets is subjective to whatever he says they are at the time. That he would grossly overstate his wealth is not unexpected and there are others that have been able to analyze how much Donald Trump is actually worth.


Trump Organization worth one tenth of value previously reported | The Independent

This comes as no surprise to those that have followed Donald Trump's business career. Identical to his term as president he's always claimed credit for the accomplishments of others and blamed his own failures on someone else. Trump was always an extremely poor executive and it was actually that attribute that made him the ideal host for the Apprentice. He has always claimed the opposite but his record of business failures, not limited to just his corporate bankruptcies, paints the opposite picture of a man that makes extremely poor business decisions.

It is true that Donald Trump's history resulting in his loss of credit with the US banking industry. By 2008 no American banks were willing to loan money to Donald Trump. Fusion GPS tracked Trump's financial situation that took him to Germany seeking funding and that lead to connections with Russian money. It was the connection to Russian money, generally shunned by respectable enterprises, that lead to Fusion GPS hiring of Christopher Steele that was a recognized expert on Russia including the organized crime in Russia, and his very reliable contracts both in and out of the Russian government. Steele was hired to follow the money trail and everything else he learned from his source came as both a surprise and a shock to Steele.

In the 21 hours of closed door testimony before Congressional committees the owners of Fusion GPS advised the committees to follow the Trump money trail (and Fusion GPS was willing to share that with Congress) because they believed there was a creditable case of money laundering of Russian organized crime members by Donald Trump.

Fusion GPS has called upon these committees to release the transcripts but the Republicans in charge refuse to do so because of how damaging to Donald Trump the testimony is. Instead the Republicans seek to protect Trump by attacking the source of intelligence provided to the FBI by Christopher Steele that has an excellent historical record of providing very accurate intelligence to the FBI and the US State Department.

Trump is and has always been a con man in business. He's exaggerated his wealth for years because that false belief is a part of the con. It's the same tactic that's used by those promoting pyramid schemes that need to reflect the wealth that they sucker investors into believing they'll acquire. Trump's entire campaign for president was nothing but a con job and that has become so evident since he took office that no one with any sense at all can avoid seeing it. But as is often the case with those that have been conned they continue to believe even after the con artist is exposed because they're too proud to admit they've been suckered to begin with.
It is unclear what public filings the article is referring. Based on his financial disclosure to the FEC in 2016 his estimated net worth is.

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The 98-page document, which Trump filed voluntarily, does not provide an exact picture of his net worth. Trump has claimed he is worth in "excess of $10 billion" but Fortune put the number at less than $4 billion late last year.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...closure-239649

So, if we take the lower Fortune estimate that is still a huge fortune he has built. The reason for the variance in estimates is the difficulty in setting an exact value for real estate assets. The traditional lower of cost or market undervalues appreciating assets while appraisals are snap shots of a moment in time.

Steele's supposed high reliability is exposed as a myth by the fact nothing in the so-called dossier has been confirmed besides a low level Trump campaign volunteer went to Russia. Naturally Fusion GPS wants their testimony to Congress publicized to put the unfounded trash in the dossier back in the news.
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