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Do you believe Broderick? There is no evidence. So if you believe this supposed victim why not the Trump accusers or the Moore accusers?
Well, Broderick had outcry witnesses for one. Also, the Harth woman dropped the lawsuit before any proceedings could be made. Since it wasn't the first accusation she had made, it has to be looked at with a grain of salt.
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Do you believe Broderick? There is no evidence. So if you believe this supposed victim why not the Trump accusers or the Moore accusers?
So you are defending Clinton.

The better question is if you believe all the Trump accusers, and as Salty's OP's point out are nothing more than accusations, why do you believe the Clinton accusers in total. Clinton did pay off one accuser $850 K, and others confirmed some of the details?
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Do you believe Broderick? There is no evidence. So if you believe this supposed victim why not the Trump accusers or the Moore accusers?
So as I said. You say Broderick has "no evidence" and is a "supposed victem"
Clear partisan double standard Mikeyy. Broderick is more credible than most sexual abuse accusers on your List. And has more evidence, had others view her injuries after the rape etc.
.You are partisanly to blind to Bill Clintons sexual abuses. As well as the Clintons other dirt.

And I do believe many of the women that have accused Trump and Moore. Even though they have LESS evidence than Broarderick or Wiley or Jones etcetc.
You need to ask yourself why YOU set the bar higher for those that accuse Clinton than you do for thooae that accuse Trump, Moore and others on the right.

Somehow I suspect you can't even admit your view is skewed way left.
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We debated Clinton a long time ago.
Trump is President and he has a shady past.
His future doesn't look too bright either.
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His future doesn't look too bright either.

Bet me. As the economy improves, the left will be toast yet again.

Those tax reforms will do the trick.

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Bet me. As the economy improves, the left will be toast yet again.

Those tax reforms will do the trick.

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what we experience now is thnx to BHO
whoever the next president is or possibly the one after that will have to contend with the falling economy and y'all will want to cut SS, and everything decent in America that's even left.
like calvin coolidge and ronald reagan , trump may nt get the blame except by readers or history buffs.
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We debated Clinton a long time ago.
and MANY people on the left like Mikeyy dismissed all of Clinton's accusers even called them "bimbo eruptions" and asked everyone who brought up Clinton's sexual abuses and immoral activity to "MOVE ON".
But now that some on the right are doing the same, Many on the left are acting outraged and can't seem to fathom how people could over look horrible sexual abuses accusations to prop up favored political figures.

please don't be dismissive of this.

Clinton and the left set the bar for this behavior. It's NO excuse for the right, BUT the left doesn't get to BLOW OFF it's recent history at this point and pretend it has clean hands when it comes to defending women above Politics.

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His future doesn't look too bright either.
Um OK... hhmm sure and the Clinton's have a "Shady Past" AT LEAST equal to Trumps. I'd say even MORE Shady. But they've managed to THRIVE and continue. Sadly these high level crooks often get away with it and the Country is left the worse for it.
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and MANY people on the left like Mikeyy dismissed all of Clinton's accusers even called them "bimbo eruptions" and asked everyone who brought up Clinton's sexual abuses and immoral activity to "MOVE ON".
But now that some on the right are doing the same, Many on the left are acting outraged and can't seem to fathom how people could over look horrible sexual abuses accusations to prop up favored political figures.

please don't be dismissive of this.

Clinton and the left set the bar for this behavior. It's NO excuse for the right, BUT the left doesn't get to BLOW OFF it's recent history at this point and pretend it has clean hands when it comes to defending women above Politics.



Um OK... hhmm sure and the Clinton's have a "Shady Past" AT LEAST equal to Trumps. I'd say even MORE Shady. But they've managed to THRIVE and continue. Sadly these high level crooks often get away with it and the Country is left the worse for it.
Whatever clinton did that was porographic, he didn't rub in our faces. In fact the Republicans did that. who put the gory details online in the brand new internet age? Republicans.
They did not hang him for the sleaze, but for choosing his family over his job.
Like I said we already debated that. Don't get me started.
Trump is the man in the hot seat. if we take moore or weinstein to task how can we not trump?
And while I'm at it, why aren't Clinton-shocked righteous Right wingers appalled at Trump's behavior and speech now and then?
The man raped his own wife in violent rage. he felt up girls vying for a miss america crown.
have we no damned decency left in this country?
of course what bill clinton did embarrased me to death and I didn't even vote for him but once.
but I'll tell you one thing he didn't set out to be vulgar in public every damned day of his diddly damned life. he knew something about getting along with our neighbors in foreign lands and hiring the right people to build a good economy.
we are such a laughing stock if I ever traveled abroad I think I might even tell people I was from Canada rather than have them pity me as a moron for putting that guy in office.
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Whatever clinton did that was porographic, he didn't rub in our faces.
No you're right, he told piss poor lies about it. day after day.

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In fact the Republicans did that.
WHo's posting all the details of Trumps' And Moores activity online?
"republicans" I'm not sure what you're saying here.
Some of these republicans are trying to pretend there's NOTHING to the Accusations against Trump and Moore.
they aren't rubbing it in anyone's faces.


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who put the gory details online in the brand new internet age? Republicans.
If you're saying that the Right put all the details of Clinton's affairs out there online , sadly yes they did with the help of the left media, . But If people had been HONEST and accepted the milder forms of "proof" then there'd have been no need to go into detail. even with the detail many on the left refused to believe Clinton had done any wrong. or anything worth taking him out of office for.

But here's the thing you seem more upset that people TOLD about the actions ...in detail... than the person to DID the actions.

that's part of the problem with politics today.

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They did not hang him for the sleaze, but for choosing his family over his job.
Again I'm not following you here
Clinton chose his FAMILY over his job? Trump chose his FAMILY over his Job? Seems both compromised their families and jobs because they both seem to think sexual abuse is something they could get away with.

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Like I said we already debated that. Don't get me started.
On how much Trump and Clinton love family? On how much the Left and republicans Love Family more than Jobs? Weiner, Hasteret, Kennedy, Moore, Franks, Conyers...
I'm not sure what your talking about.

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Trump is the man in the hot seat. if we take moore or weinstein to task how can we not trump?
YES, you're right. I've never thought Trump was fit for the presidency and His sexual abuse and misbehavior is ONE of several reasons I believe that.
But again the LEFT set the precedent for protecting a KNOWN sexual abuser remain in highest office in the land.

Seems to me the many on the left should publicly OWN that as they publicly and with righteous indignation wag the finger at the right, Trump Moore Etc.

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And while I'm at it, why aren't Clinton-shocked righteous Right wingers appalled at Trump's behavior and speech now and then?
The man raped his own wife in violent rage. he felt up girls vying for a miss America crown.
have we no damned decency left in this country?
That's A question I've been asking since the 90s. This obvious moral compromise and denials with Trump and Moore now spread the the lack of morals to the political right. the LEFT was already THERE. that's part of what I'm saying Saltn. Not to mention the other sexual perversions and moral compromise that the left promotes as "acceptable" and "celebratable" behavior.


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of course what bill clinton did embarrassed me to death and I didn't even vote for him but once.
At least you were embarrassed. Too many on the left were just in denial and defense mode. making sure Clinton STAYED in power. Politics trumped any idea that woman should be protected from sexual predators in places of power ...or even taken seriously, "bimbo eruptions".

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...but I'll tell you one thing he didn't set out to be vulgar in public every damned day of his diddly damned life....
yep Trump is a disgrace with a lot of his public commentary.

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... he knew something about getting along with our neighbors in foreign lands ...
All of the president's ...including Ford... had a better grasp of communicating with foreign leaders/countries than Trump.
but that's not the issue of this Thread.

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and hiring the right people to build a good economy.
Again not the issue of this thread.
and here again it seems that POLITICS is somehow suppose to trump the issue of sexual abuse and the treatment of women.
as long as you do a good job IMO then treating women like crap is NOT SO BAD and should be overlooked.
right?


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we are such a laughing stock if I ever traveled abroad I think I might even tell people I was from Canada rather than have them pity me as a moron for putting that guy in office.
Again another issue, our collective embarrassment doesn't help Brodrick, Wiley, Trump's Ex, or any of the other women that are getting the message that NO ONE really gives a S*** if they get abused or raped, as long the FAVORED political personality of either party gets to keep his job.

the women should STHU becasue ... for the greater good.
Or they should USE the abuse as political tool/wedge/hammer against the horror show politician of other side today then move out of the way becasue no one really gives a crap.


seem to me THAT'S prettying embarrassing Saltn
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The fact the Trump brag on the radio saying that he'd walk through the dressing room of miss TEEN USA pageants that he sponsored to peak at half dressed girls did not even PAUSE many on the right when it came up.
"BETTER THAN CLINTON" was the Only thing that mattered.
it's one of the most hypocritically things I've seen the right do on this issue.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.42bfbe7bed2d
On an April 11, 2005, airing of “The Howard Stern Show,” Donald Trump bragged about some of the special perks he enjoyed while he was owner of the Miss USA pageant. They came not in a locker room but a dressing room.

“I’ll go backstage before a show, and everyone’s getting dressed and ready and everything else,” he said. “And you know, no men are anywhere. And I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant. And therefore I’m inspecting it.”

Stern replied, “You’re like a doctor.”

Trump responded: “Is everyone okay? You know they’re standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible-looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that.”

CNN broke the story of his Stern show comments.

CBS 2 Los Angeles did a little fact-checking and, guess what, this time, no Pinocchios. Tasha Dixon, Miss Arizona in 2001, told the TV station that Trump just came “waltzing in” while contestants were nude or half-nude as they changed into bikinis.

Separately, BuzzFeed News reported Wednesday that four women in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant said Trump walked into their dressing room while they were changing. Some were as young as 15, BuzzFeed reported.

Three spoke anonymously, and one allowed her name to be used. “I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here,'” Mariah Billado, a former Miss Vermont Teen USA, told BuzzFeed.

Trump, she told BuzzFeed News, said “something like ‘Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.'”...

But the woman are all LIARS. right?
and Trump was LYING when he told the Story to Howard Stern too Right?

sorry Trumps is sexual abuser, and should never have been elected based on that alone.
the CHRISTIAN right, and the MORAL Conservatives have to OWN this creep. And it's moral compromise on this guy and AGAIN on Moore if it continues to back him.

but again the left does not have high ground they've compromised SO much themselves with characters of similar character supported for DECADES.
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