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While Slavery was an issue, the facts remain that the inability to compromise on Slavery and other issues was the cause of tensions between the Northern industrial states, who benefitted financially from the Chattel slavery system, and the South who were now dependent on it.

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again the united states bent over backwards compromising with those who-as stated in their own secession documents-left because of slavery. each state who succeeded did so to protect that institution. what institution? slavery
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I think Kelly has shown himself as a racist
Oh lookie, a lib playin' the race card. Original.

Elementary school kids with Down Syndrome huffin' glue know the Civil War was more 'bout just slavery. Slavery was one of the major factors, but not the only one.
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they wanted to be able to abduct freedmen into slavery and wished for more states coming in to the union to own slaves. so yeah slavery was the cause of the civil war
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Elementary school kids with Down Syndrome huffin' glue know the Civil War was more 'bout just slavery.
Ahhh. I've always wondered why some kids "know" the Civil war "was more 'bout just slavery" and why other kids have more intelligence.
I had no idea it was the fact that you guys had Down Syndrome and were huffin' glue was the cause for your confusion.



White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly, whose boss is well known for unique opinions about the Civil War, introduced his own hypothesis to the world last night when he blamed the war on “the lack of an ability to compromise.”

The Washington Post has already written about what historians think of Kelly’s thoughts, their assessments ranging from “dangerous” to “kind of depressing.”

But the truth is, the panicky months before the Civil War were full of attempts to compromise with the rebellious South.

The most popular proposal, by far, was a constitutional amendment that would have irreversibly immortalized slavery as a feature of the United States.

And although supporters of this compromise — up to and including Abraham Lincoln and most of Congress — did fail to pull it off, it wasn’t for lack of trying.

‘Mass panic’

The central difficulty of bargaining with secessionists, as Daniel W. Crofts writes in “Lincoln and the Politics of Slavery,” is that so many secessionists were hysterical.

“White Southerners had heard endlessly that ‘Black Republicans’ planned to destroy slavery and confer equal citizen rights on ex-slaves,” the College of New Jersey’s emeritus history professor writes in his book. So when Lincoln was elected as the first Republican president in late 1860, “an extensive mass panic” followed.

“The Government is in the hands of those who are unfriendly to Slavery,” a U.S. senator from Georgia warned Congress the next month, for example. He prophesied not just abolition — but slave uprisings, “murderings, poisonings, and revolts” under Lincoln’s reign.

“Which was absolute garbage,” Crofts told The Washington Post. “Lincoln hated slavery,” the professor said — but the incoming president had no desire to upend the Southern slave economy, lest he fracture his young party or risk a war.

Nevertheless, fear spread. And as Southern states started to secede, Unionists in the North urged Lincoln to compromise.

Petitions descended on Washington from Boston, New York City and Philadelphia, Crofts writes. The largest daily newspaper in the world, the New York Herald, implored Lincoln to strike “a Union compromise” that would put an end to the notion that his party wanted to “exterminate the white race in the South and set the negro free.”

Lincoln, it turned out, was amenable.
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they wanted to be able to abduct freedmen into slavery and wished for more states coming in to the union to own slaves.
Did Vanity Fair confirm this? Remember, nothin' is official unless Vanity Fair says so.

And no, John Kelly is not racist. Here's a real example of racism:

Singer asked whites to move to back of audience, people of color to move to front. Then it got ugly. – TheBlaze

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More real acts of racism:

Man throws mysterious liquid at girl’s face in reportedly racially motivated attack: ‘White b****’ – TheBlaze

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The 13-year-old girl was exiting an afternoon bus in the Richmond Hill area of Queens when the incident occurred.

“Police said the suspect came up behind the girl and when she turned around, he yelled racial remarks and threw the unknown substance on her,” WCBS reported.

The substance is still unknown, but it reportedly burned the young girl’s eyes.

She was taken to Jamaica Hospital and treated after the attack.
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Believe it or not, dumbasses still insist that only White people can be racist.
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And once again, some people are trying to derail threads by whining about things that are not the topic and that nobody here said.


And Hairy?
I find it funny that you recognize black people can be racist too ...
... but you seem incapable of recognizing when YOU are the one committing the race-baiting.
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And once again, some people are trying to derail threads
Mikey claimed somethin' was racist when it wasn't. I'm simply showin' the lad real acts of racism since he's unaware of what it really is.
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again the united states bent over backwards compromising with those who-as stated in their own secession documents-left because of slavery. each state who succeeded did so to protect that institution. what institution? slavery
No it didn't. It elected a staunch Republican to the fledgling abolitionist party. Further enraging the south who had real issues with Tariffs, States rights and trade restrictions, not slavery.

The institution of slavery had made elite families of Boston, New York, Hartford and Providence rich. If anyone was promoting maintenance of the chattel system during our nation's formative early years, it was the bankers of the North.

We all know how amiable big bankers are to compromise.


Please stop reporting, as historical facts, the talking points of the party who extended the subjugation of slaves for more than 100 years beyond emancipation. I would remind you that it is the same party that insists we recognize each other first by race, a tactic of division, so that we can then be a color blind society.
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