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The other night, Fox News featured the (quite trenchant) political and philosophical analyst, Victor Davis Hanson.

Hanson noted something of considerable significance, I believe.

Basically (and I am paraphrasing), he said the following:

When some groups (as a whole) fail to succeed in America, there are three theoretical reasons:

(1) These groups just lack the native intelligence to succeed.

(2) These groups have rejected "bourgeois" American values--values that include patriotism, a hard-work ethic, and deferring childrearing until after marriage--and are therefore paying the price.

(3) There is systemic bigotry that is keeping down some groups.

He noted that the Politically Correct Class unanimously endorses #3--and rejects the others out of hand.

Personally, I gravitate strongly toward #2.

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The other night, Fox News featured the (quite trenchant) political and philosophical analyst, Victor Davis Hanson.

Hanson noted something of considerable significance, I believe.

Basically (and I am paraphrasing), he said the following:

When some groups (as a whole) fail to succeed in America, there are three theoretical reasons:

(1) These groups just lack the native intelligence to succeed.

(2) These groups have rejected "bourgeois" American values--values that include patriotism, a hard-work ethic, and deferring childrearing until after marriage--and are therefore paying the price.

(3) There is systemic bigotry that is keeping down some groups.

He noted that the Politically Correct Class unanimously endorses #3--and rejects the others out of hand.

Personally, I gravitate strongly toward #2.

Thoughts?
I buy into 1 and 2. 3 not so much. If that's true then Johnson's great society and all that followed is a failure.

Systematic bigotry is an excuse, not a reason.
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The other night, Fox News featured the (quite trenchant) political and philosophical analyst, Victor Davis Hanson.

Hanson noted something of considerable significance, I believe.

Basically (and I am paraphrasing), he said the following:

When some groups (as a whole) fail to succeed in America, there are three theoretical reasons:

(1) These groups just lack the native intelligence to succeed.

(2) These groups have rejected "bourgeois" American values--values that include patriotism, a hard-work ethic, and deferring childrearing until after marriage--and are therefore paying the price.

(3) There is systemic bigotry that is keeping down some groups.

He noted that the Politically Correct Class unanimously endorses #3--and rejects the others out of hand.

Personally, I gravitate strongly toward #2.

Thoughts?
I have to agree, #2. I put very little weight behind the idea that any particular group, race or nationality is innately less intelligent than another, and perhaps I am blowing rainbows, but I cannot believe that that many people are bigoted enough to be a measurable entity.

The under 35 crowd, in general, seem to have lost the idea that work is not something you do when it's convenient and fits your social schedule, which is what we are experiencing a great deal of here. Unfortunately, I view it as a result of a different method of parenting that came around in the 80's. My generation (as a parent) as it were.
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