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Old 07-15-2017, 04:57 PM
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(1) There is a bright-line distinction (or, at least, there used to be) between editorialists (i.e. opinion columnists), on the one hand, and straight-news reporters, on the other hand. The former should feel free to criticize the president's policies. The latter should not--and especially not obliquely, so as to give a subtle slant to their reporting. (Last August, Jim Rutenberg, in The New York Times, wrote that if one thinks that Donald Trump is a demagogue and dangerous to our country, then "you have to throw out the textbook American journalism has been using for the better part of the past half-century, if not longer, and approach it in a way youíve never approached anything in your career." In other words, blur the line between editorialism and straight-news reporting.)

(2) To call President Trump and his subordinates "a band of traitors" is so far over the line as to make you appear to be nothing more than a partisan hack--to the left, even, of Chuck Schumer. (And that is really very difficult to accomplish.)
You know, I have a real hard time taking you seriously, and its not because of your ideology, its because you're aggressively uninformed and ignorant.

The media and press have always been a manipulation tool, that you're accidentally right about. But considering the media is owned by 4 multibillion dollar corporations, none of whom have a record of being anything but conservative in the way all businesses are, it appears you're pulling a talking point to repeat out of right-wing media that has brainwashed you.

Look, I know your national leaders are setting a bad example here, but calling yourself a conservative does not give you a license to be stupidly, hilariously wrong about basic issues, and to ignore and defend Trumps blatant and open corruption. And if people make fun of you for being an idiot you can't just claim they're oppressing you for your beliefs. I have no problem calling the trump clan Traitors, because that is what all the available evidence shows. Truth is hard, but you really need to stop lying about Trump.
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You know, I have a real hard time taking you seriously, and its not because of your ideology, its because you're aggressively uninformed and ignorant.

The media and press have always been a manipulation tool, that you're accidentally right about. But considering the media is owned by 4 multibillion dollar corporations, none of whom have a record of being anything but conservative in the way all businesses are, it appears you're pulling a talking point to repeat out of right-wing media that has brainwashed you.

Look, I know your national leaders are setting a bad example here, but calling yourself a conservative does not give you a license to be stupidly, hilariously wrong about basic issues, and to ignore and defend Trumps blatant and open corruption. And if people make fun of you for being an idiot you can't just claim they're oppressing you for your beliefs. I have no problem calling the trump clan Traitors, because that is what all the available evidence shows. Truth is hard, but you really need to stop lying about Trump.
Not really anything in this post has anything to do with the post it addresses. It is just liberal butt hurt, unhinged hate and obstructionism, that will harm our nation. Promoted by a political party defined by identity politics were minorities are never wrong, and in fact are idolized for bringing "diversity" to our nation at the cost of tax payers... How crazy is that?

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Don't try to take him seriously. It's not going to help
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You know, I have a real hard time taking you seriously, and its not because of your ideology, its because you're aggressively uninformed and ignorant.

The media and press have always been a manipulation tool, that you're accidentally right about. But considering the media is owned by 4 multibillion dollar corporations, none of whom have a record of being anything but conservative in the way all businesses are, it appears you're pulling a talking point to repeat out of right-wing media that has brainwashed you.

Look, I know your national leaders are setting a bad example here, but calling yourself a conservative does not give you a license to be stupidly, hilariously wrong about basic issues, and to ignore and defend Trumps blatant and open corruption. And if people make fun of you for being an idiot you can't just claim they're oppressing you for your beliefs. I have no problem calling the trump clan Traitors, because that is what all the available evidence shows. Truth is hard, but you really need to stop lying about Trump.
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You know, I have a real hard time taking you seriously, and its not because of your ideology, its because you're aggressively uninformed and ignorant.

The media and press have always been a manipulation tool, that you're accidentally right about. But considering the media is owned by 4 multibillion dollar corporations, none of whom have a record of being anything but conservative in the way all businesses are, it appears you're pulling a talking point to repeat out of right-wing media that has brainwashed you.

Look, I know your national leaders are setting a bad example here, but calling yourself a conservative does not give you a license to be stupidly, hilariously wrong about basic issues, and to ignore and defend Trumps blatant and open corruption. And if people make fun of you for being an idiot you can't just claim they're oppressing you for your beliefs. I have no problem calling the trump clan Traitors, because that is what all the available evidence shows. Truth is hard, but you really need to stop lying about Trump.
You need to be more tolerant of those that don't think as you do. I know you think your are the smartest person in the room, but you are really just a typical partisan hack. Things are not always the way they seem. Government is too big and too corrupt and you can't see it.
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You need to be more tolerant of those that don't think as you do. I know you think your are the smartest person in the room, but you are really just a typical partisan hack. Things are not always the way they seem. Government is too big and too corrupt and you can't see it.
The left for the past 8 years or more has not been the party of tolerance or decorum. I tend to believe that's a major part of the intense dislike of Trump and his followers. Trump isn't either, and he gives back far more than he receives. Liberals hate being one upped by someone who is better at their game.

The remainder of the hate is divided equally into jealousy and the fact they lost.
That wasn't supposed to happen. All the polls said it wouldn't. The space for the victory celebration had been leased and decorated. The speech prepared. New liberal laws were being written. Then somebody kicked the last field goal, and it wasn't their kicker. And now the winners are aggressively uninformed and ignorant, and brainwashed and idiots.

And Bear has a hard time taking you, meaning I assume the collective you, seriously.
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The left for the past 8 years or more has not been the party of tolerance or decorum. I tend to believe that's a major part of the intense dislike of Trump and his followers. Trump isn't either, and he gives back far more than he receives. Liberals hate being one upped by someone who is better at their game.

The remainder of the hate is divided equally into jealousy and the fact they lost.
That wasn't supposed to happen. All the polls said it wouldn't. The space for the victory celebration had been leased and decorated. The speech prepared. New liberal laws were being written. Then somebody kicked the last field goal, and it wasn't their kicker. And now the winners are aggressively uninformed and ignorant, and brainwashed and idiots.

And Bear has a hard time taking you, meaning I assume the collective you, seriously.
It is funny that this thread is about Right wing intolerance, when the left decided on November 8Th 2016 that they would not tolerate one single thing that Trump does.

As far as taking things seriously. I think the left takes Trump far to serious. They have created so much fear, that everything Trump does is serious. They analyze to death every cough, fart and weeze because of the extreme fear that their party has encouraged.
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Did you just call someone a partisan hack. Talk about pot and kettle.
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You need to be more tolerant of those that don't think as you do. I know you think your are the smartest person in the room, but you are really just a typical partisan hack. Things are not always the way they seem. Government is too big and too corrupt and you can't see it.
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Geez surly, are you that blind or just that dumb.
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The left for the past 8 years or more has not been the party of tolerance or decorum. I tend to believe that's a major part of the intense dislike of Trump and his followers. Trump isn't either, and he gives back far more than he receives. Liberals hate being one upped by someone who is better at their game.

The remainder of the hate is divided equally into jealousy and the fact they lost.
That wasn't supposed to happen. All the polls said it wouldn't. The space for the victory celebration had been leased and decorated. The speech prepared. New liberal laws were being written. Then somebody kicked the last field goal, and it wasn't their kicker. And now the winners are aggressively uninformed and ignorant, and brainwashed and idiots.

And Bear has a hard time taking you, meaning I assume the collective you, seriously.
Do you remember during the nomination Trump was giving a speech to assorted military heroes and veterans? He started talking about PTSD and none of the "strong" people in the room would have that problem, but some out there do? I watched it live, no spin, no CNN making up fake news, it was Trump saying unimaginably stupid things. That event has faded because Trump has said and done so many stupid things since. It is hard taking him seriously, and yes, taking his mindless followers serious even harder. At least in my case I don't take him serious, because he isn't.
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You know, I have a real hard time taking you seriously, and its not because of your ideology, its because you're aggressively uninformed and ignorant.

The media and press have always been a manipulation tool, that you're accidentally right about. But considering the media is owned by 4 multibillion dollar corporations, none of whom have a record of being anything but conservative in the way all businesses are, it appears you're pulling a talking point to repeat out of right-wing media that has brainwashed you.

Look, I know your national leaders are setting a bad example here, but calling yourself a conservative does not give you a license to be stupidly, hilariously wrong about basic issues, and to ignore and defend Trumps blatant and open corruption. And if people make fun of you for being an idiot you can't just claim they're oppressing you for your beliefs. I have no problem calling the trump clan Traitors, because that is what all the available evidence shows. Truth is hard, but you really need to stop lying about Trump.

I believe you are conflating Conservative business practices with Conservative political views. And even if you weren't, one can be a conservative business person (whatever defines that quality) and still be a flaming liberal.


Thus making your analysis a humorous bit of nonsense. The personal insults to someone you have never met, lend no emphasis, much less credibility, to your premise.
As to Trump equal traitors. There is speculation, even repeated charges, but absolutely no evidence of treason. Nor has there been any acts of treason actually observed much less performed.

Do you even know what the word Treason means? Until then, you might want to stop calling others "idiots" simply because they know what treason is. Otherwise you are simply being intolerant of other views.

Treason Against the United States.

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The left for the past 8 years or more has not been the party of tolerance or decorum. I tend to believe that's a major part of the intense dislike of Trump and his followers. Trump isn't either, and he gives back far more than he receives. Liberals hate being one upped by someone who is better at their game.

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What has Trump given back?
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