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Old 06-09-2017, 01:28 PM
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Obama was a good family man. And a quality role model for America's youth. He was well respected in the IC and military, even though his policy's were crap. He at least was knowlegable and knew what he was talking about even though I disagree with how he went about certain things.

A lot of people would never give him a chance because he was black sure, but I think the majority just won't give any Democrat a chance even if the alternative is a ***** grabbing serial liar con artist who is in owned by Russia.

Honest and true conservatives what nothing to do with Trump. The GOP doesn't actually stand for anything anymore except winning office at any cost.
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He is right. I don't think Republicans are even Americans anymore. They are just Republicans.
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The rest of the worlds. Please present evidence anyone disrespected Obama anything like Fat Boy in North Korea is punking Trump right now.
Well, my son and his Airmen buddies in the Air Force for one. They couldn't stand Obama. Also, my brother who works at Central Command in Tampa Florida and attest that almost no one there could stand him.

If you are looking for statistics, you may be hard pressed as generally, those in the military are often unwilling to show any political opinions as they are trained to avoid anything political.

As for Trump being "punked" by the N. Korean Fat boy, in what way? KI is just blustering as does every NK leader when new President takes office. Fat Boy knows that if he starts anything serious, his entire country would disappear in about 20 mins. Also, Trump has gotten China to get involved like they have never in the past, to put the clamps on NK. They quit buying coal from NK, which was NK's only true export.

I would say Trump is playing Fat Boy and NK like a fiddle. Don't believe every opinion piece you see or read in the MSM.
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what? What world power the Fat Boy in North Korea has already treated Trump. Please be specific. You made the claim. Who disrespected our military under Obama and exactly how? Who was it took out Osama bin Laden? Just asking.
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Well, my son and his Airmen buddies in the Air Force for one. They couldn't stand Obama. Also, my brother who works at Central Command in Tampa Florida and attest that almost no one there could stand him.

If you are looking for statistics, you may be hard pressed as generally, those in the military are often unwilling to show any political opinions as they are trained to avoid anything political.

As for Trump being "punked" by the N. Korean Fat boy, in what way? KI is just blustering as does every NK leader when new President takes office. Fat Boy knows that if he starts anything serious, his entire country would disappear in about 20 mins. Also, Trump has gotten China to get involved like they have never in the past, to put the clamps on NK. They quit buying coal from NK, which was NK's only true export.

I would say Trump is playing Fat Boy and NK like a fiddle. Don't believe every opinion piece you see or read in the MSM.
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what? What world power the Fat Boy in North Korea has already treated Trump. Please be specific. You made the claim. Who disrespected our military under Obama and exactly how? Who was it took out Osama bin Laden? Just asking.
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More than half of troops surveyed in the latest Military Times/Institute for Veterans and Military Families poll said they have an unfavorable opinion of Obama and his two-terms leading the military. About 36 percent said they approve of his job as commander in chief.

The Obama era is over. Here's how the military rates his legacy
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You were talking about our military? Now tell me, what foreign military disrespected Obama? Our military is always conservative, I was a very conservative Republican when I was a young Marine. Course Republicans are far different now than the 80's. Which country dissed America under Obama?
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You know what bugs me about this story you posted? It isn't about facts it's about feelings. Anyone who is willing to look at the actual numbers would be surprised. Your authors are pro trump and anti Obama. Look at their other stories.
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Default No, White Friend - You Weren't "Embarrassed" by Barack Obama

I remember the day after the Election, a friend of mine who happens to be white, remarked on social media that he "finally wasn't embarrassed of America and our President."

I sprained my eyes rolling them and they have never fully recovered.

Since then I've heard this sentiment echoed by more white folks than I can count, especially in recent months; supposed relief at once again having a leader who instills pride.

Since I don't have the time to ask each of the individually, I'll ask here:

So, you were embarrassed for the past 8 years, huh?

Really?

What exactly were you embarrassed by?

Were you embarrassed by his lone and enduring twenty-five year marriage to a strong woman he's never ceased to publicly praise, respect, or cherish?

Were you embarrassed by the way he lovingly and sweetly parented and protected his daughters?

Were you embarrassed by his Columbia University degree in Political Science or his graduating magna cum laude from Harvard Law School?

Maybe you were embarrassed by his white American and Black Kenyan parents, or the diversity he was raised in as normal?

Were you embarrassed by his eloquence, his quick wit, his easy humor, his seeming comfort meeting with both world leaders and street cleaners; by his bright smile or his sense of empathy or his steadiness - perhaps by his lack of personal scandals or verbal gaffes or impulsive tirades?

No. Of course you weren't.

Honestly, I don't believe you were ever embarrassed. That word implies an association that brings ridicule, one that makes you ashamed by association, and if that's something you claim to have experienced over the past eight years by having Barack Obama representing you in the world - I'm going to suggest you rethink your word choice.

You weren't "embarrassed" by Barack Obama.

You were threatened by him.
You were offended by him. You were challenged by him. You were enraged by him.

But I don't believe it had anything to do with his resume or his experience or his character or his conduct in office - because you seem fully proud right now to be associated with a three-time married, serial adulterer and confessed predator; a man whose election and business dealings and relationships are riddled with controversy and malfeasance. You're perfectly fine being represented by a bullying, obnoxious, genitalia-grabbing, Tweet-ranting, Prime Minister-shoving charlatan who's managed to offend all our allies in a few short months. And you're okay with him putting on religious faith like a rented, dusty, ill-fitting tuxedo and immediately tossing it in the garbage when he's finished with it.

None of that you're embarrassed of? I wonder how that works.

Actually, I'm afraid I have an idea. I hope I'm wrong.

Listen, you're perfectly within your rights to have disagreed with Barack Obama's policies or to have taken issue with his tactics. No one's claiming he was a flawless politician or a perfect human being. But somehow I don't think that's what we're talking about here. I think the thing President Obama did that really upset you, white friend - was having a complexion that was far darker than you were ever comfortable with. I think the President we have now feels much better.

Because objectively speaking, if what's happening in our country right now doesn't cause you great shame and doesn't induce the continual meeting of your palm to your face - I don't believe embarrassment is ever something you struggle with.

No, if you claimed to be "embarrassed" by Barack Obama but you're not embarrassed by Donald Trump - I'm going to strongly suggest it was largely a pigmentation issue.

And as an American and a Christian committed to diversity and equality and to the liberty at the heart of this nation - that, embarrasses me.

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Default Re: No, White Friend - You Weren't "Embarrassed" by Barack Obama

I believe this same oped by Pavlovitz was threaded last month by Deckard.

"When Conservatives Say Obama “Embarrassed” America, Show Them This Pastor’s Response"
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I believe this same oped by Pavlovitz was threaded last month by Deckard.

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Still true though
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