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CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. (AP) -- As President Donald Trump touts job creation for Americans as a top priority, his son's Virginia winery is seeking permission to hire foreign workers to cultivate its grapes.

Trump Vineyard Estates, better known as Trump Winery, asked to bring in 29 workers this season through the federal H-2A visa program, The Daily Progress reported (Trump Winery seeks more foreign workers, but many local vineyards also depend on them | Charlottesville Business Journal | dailyprogress.com ). The program enables agricultural employers who anticipate a shortage of domestic workers to bring foreign workers to the U.S. to do agricultural jobs or perform other temporary or seasonal services.

Trump Vineyard Estates, owned by Eric Trump, initially applied for six foreign workers in December. Two months later, the company applied for 23 more. Both job orders for Trump Vineyard Estates say the primary tasks include planting and cultivating vines, adding grow tubes and pruning grape vines.

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So much for helping Americans.
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The program enables agricultural employers who anticipate a shortage of domestic workers to bring foreign workers to the U.S. to do agricultural jobs or perform other temporary or seasonal services.


I guess you can not read the fine print. It is legal and has been for decades.

You really ought to get caught up to the times.

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The program enables agricultural employers who anticipate a shortage of domestic workers to bring foreign workers to the U.S. to do agricultural jobs or perform other temporary or seasonal services.


I guess you can not read the fine print. It is legal and has been for decades.

You really ought to get caught up to the times.

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The program enables agricultural employers who anticipate a shortage of domestic workers to bring foreign workers to the U.S. to do agricultural jobs or perform other temporary or seasonal services.


I guess you can not read the fine print. It is legal and has been for decades.

You really ought to get caught up to the times.

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Trump properties have asked the government to grant temporary visas to some 1,200 foreign workers since 2000, according to an investigation by Reuters last year and updated data provided by the U.S. Department of Labor. Most of these visas fell under the H-2A or the H-2B category, for seasonal workers.

In his campaign, President Trump ran on the promise that he would enforce a “requirement to hire American workers first,” railing against Disney and employers like it that “replace any worker with cheaper foreign labor.”
“It legalizes job theft,” Trump said in a 2015 interview with Breitbart News’s Steve Bannon. (Bannon is now President Trump’s chief strategist.) “It gives companies the legal right to pass over Americans, displace Americans, or directly replace Americans for good-paying middle-class jobs.”

Despite Trump’s claims that Americans didn’t want the jobs Trump was offering to immigrants, a 2016 report in The New York Times showed that since 2010 some 300 Americans had applied to the positions that ultimately went to foreign workers at Mar-a-Lago, the exclusive Palm Beach club President Trump has dubbed his “Winter White House.”

A Visa Ban?But Not For Trump?s Foreign Workers - The Daily Beast

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the fact that trump has never maintained any consistency in what he says and what he does is just one reason i could not vote for him.


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the fact that trump has never maintained any consistency in what he says and what he does is just one reason i could not vote for him.


we had terrible choices and should work to get money out of politics which imho means backing a third party
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we had terrible choices and should work to get money out of politics which imho means backing a third party
what third party?
not a single one ran a serious candidate.
they ran fools supported by fools.
i tried to find one; i really did.
at the end of the day ALL of them ran just to pull votes from the major party candidates with no plan to win.
libertarians, if they actually gave a rats ass about bettering the country, would have started a grass roots campaign decades ago to get libertarians elected to city councils, mayoral offices, state legislatures and governorships and eventually the u.s. house and senate. until they do that they will never make a serious run at the presidency. and for folks to continue to support a party that has zero interest in building the party from the ground up; from local communities to state houses and then to the federal government means they don't give a schitt either. for a party to claim they oppose top down government and supports states rights and local government leadership to totally abandon those principles and only concentrate on running for the top office in the country proves they're hypocrites and are just playing with their gullible supporters.
you're better off staying home - it wastes less time and energy.
and for the two major parties to give us the two candidates they did - well...we get the government we deserve.
i've tried to support third party candidates - yes, i was that fool voting for candidates from parties with zero interest in actually winning anything. i've even voted for the less bad viable candidate only being on the winnng side once and that was a less than satisfying experience.
i'd be better off going to vegas during the election and gamble on who the country will elect every four years. it'd be a heck of a lot more fun and less painful.
and the whole get money out of politics bull...yeah, obama wanted only public fundng until he figured out he could raise more than mccain. then the oh so honest savior of the next generation totally abandoned the principles he claimed to hold dear and never looked back like the hypocrite he is playing his loyal little subjects for the fools they are.
and here we are today. more loyal subjects getting played and they defend it just like the guy's followers.
that right there is why politics will never be cleaned up...because even those who claim that's what they want will change their minds in a second once their candidate/party is in power.
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what third party?
not a single one ran a serious candidate.
they ran fools supported by fools.
i tried to find one; i really did.
at the end of the day ALL of them ran just to pull votes from the major party candidates with no plan to win.
libertarians, if they actually gave a rats ass about bettering the country, would have started a grass roots campaign decades ago to get libertarians elected to city councils, mayoral offices, state legislatures and governorships and eventually the u.s. house and senate. until they do that they will never make a serious run at the presidency. and for folks to continue to support a party that has zero interest in building the party from the ground up; from local communities to state houses and then to the federal government means they don't give a schitt either. for a party to claim they oppose top down government and supports states rights and local government leadership to totally abandon those principles and only concentrate on running for the top office in the country proves they're hypocrites and are just playing with their gullible supporters.
you're better off staying home - it wastes less time and energy.
and for the two major parties to give us the two candidates they did - well...we get the government we deserve.
i've tried to support third party candidates - yes, i was that fool voting for candidates from parties with zero interest in actually winning anything. i've even voted for the less bad viable candidate only being on the winnng side once and that was a less than satisfying experience.
i'd be better off going to vegas during the election and gamble on who the country will elect every four years. it'd be a heck of a lot more fun and less painful.
and the whole get money out of politics bull...yeah, obama wanted only public fundng until he figured out he could raise more than mccain. then the oh so honest savior of the next generation totally abandoned the principles he claimed to hold dear and never looked back like the hypocrite he is playing his loyal little subjects for the fools they are.
and here we are today. more loyal subjects getting played and they defend it just like the guy's followers.
that right there is why politics will never be cleaned up...because even those who claim that's what they want will change their minds in a second once their candidate/party is in power.
maybe more will run. I don't know but I spent my last election revoting people who screw me. it's mostly congress we need to boot. mix it up. run a local you respect who's independant
boycotting cable news (use the V chip or kid friendly thingy to block them ) during the next elections is another good plan I think
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The program enables agricultural employers who anticipate a shortage of domestic workers to bring foreign workers to the U.S. to do agricultural jobs or perform other temporary or seasonal services.


I guess you can not read the fine print. It is legal and has been for decades.

You really ought to get caught up to the times.

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In fact, that's the way the grape pickers in California have been hired for decades. In WW II, the H2B's were hired. It's legal, and it works. When the job is done they go home. That's why it's called temporary work.

Liberals have a way of failing to distinguish between legal immigration and invading our borders.
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