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You realize this weakened the Filibuster right? It did not strengthen it or make it easier to use.

Try again.
Correct. And now the Democrats are screwed by a procedure of their own doing. The Republicans can do what they want, and with the 51% shutoff on the filibuster, there is nothing to stop the Republicans of sending Mickey Mouse to the Supreme Court if they choose.
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You really should do some research before you post. The Senate Filibuster rules were weakened by the Democrats under Hairy Reid. This when the Democrats had a small majority in the Senate.

Now they don't.

The GOP objected to the changes in the first place. While it may seem noble to put the old rules back, why should they.

Payback time.

As others have said, there are consequences.

Your turn to "try again."
You should really read what you are responding too. The argument was made that the Democrats strengthened the Fillibuster, hence why the Republicans used it so much against Obama. Obviously the Democrats weakened the Fillibuster, that's what I said. Reading Comprehension not your strong suit?
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Correct. And now the Democrats are screwed by a procedure of their own doing. The Republicans can do what they want, and with the 51% shutoff on the filibuster, there is nothing to stop the Republicans of sending Mickey Mouse to the Supreme Court if they choose.
On this we agree. I remember McCain saying as much at the time. The Fillibuster change was pushed through by Harry Reid, but with the help of a bunch of freshmen Senators who had no historical reference to work off of. The Majority will one day be the minority, so be careful what you ask for.

The Supreme Court however was the only thing that didn't change, you still need 60 votes for that.
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On this we agree. I remember McCain saying as much at the time. The Fillibuster change was pushed through by Harry Reid, but with the help of a bunch of freshmen Senators who had no historical reference to work off of. The Majority will one day be the minority, so be careful what you ask for.

The Supreme Court however was the only thing that didn't change, you still need 60 votes for that.
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You should really read what you are responding too. The argument was made that the Democrats strengthened the Fillibuster, hence why the Republicans used it so much against Obama. Obviously the Democrats weakened the Fillibuster, that's what I said. Reading Comprehension not your strong suit?
I guess it depends on what you mean by "strengthening" What Hairy Reid did was made it easier to shut one down and bring on a vote.
A 51% shut of Vrs a 67% weakens the ability to use one. In my view that makes it easier to push something through. How is that strengthening the power of a filibuster?

The Founders set things up so that passing legislation would be inefficient for a reason. Early on, Senate rules were adopted that continued with that concept.

Can you comprehend why?
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I guess it depends on what you mean by "strengthening" What Hairy Reid did was made it easier to shut one down and bring on a vote.
A 51% shut of Vrs a 67% weakens the ability to use one. In my view that makes it easier to push something through. How is that strengthening the power of a filibuster?

The Founders set things up so that passing legislation would be inefficient for a reason. Early on, Senate rules were adopted that continued with that concept.

Can you comprehend why?
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Why do you talk to people like a douche bag?
Why do you talk at all?

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Are you his spokesman or are you just a busy body?
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