Despite the right always trashing California (Envy, no doubt) It is the top state in Agriculture in the nation. Los Angeles is the top city in Manufacturing in the entire country. It tops the list of the most beautiful state in the nation because of it's wide variety destinations. It tops the list in film production. The most telecommunications jobs. California has the most advanced electric grid. California leads the nation in biotech. Not to mention silicon vally

I could go on and on. Remember when people were laughing at California because of the debt crisis after the economic crash. Well, It's back on track and still kicking everyone else's ass. Look at Kansas and republican policies and you can see what they do.

So really you should thank California for the liberal policies that help the entire nation while Republican states seem to be in bad shape.

Yeah but you guys gave us Reagan

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Originally Posted by TiredRetired View Post
Damn shame it couldn't have been a father / son event. IMHO.

California is the armpit of the US. It's crowded, dirty, economy is one of the worst in the nation, and has been driven into the ground by liberal politics for decades.

It's basically diarrhea in a toilet after taco night at the local Mexican joint.

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You need to switch to decafe dude

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Originally Posted by TiredRetired View Post
Damn shame it couldn't have been a father / son event. IMHO.

Are you just trying to troll everyone else? Or do you have a point?

You're really trying to compare Kalifornia to Kansas? Really?!?

What about Utah? Its economy is better that Kali's and it's run by (what you would call) theocratic Mormons.

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-- F.A. Hayek

Mikeyy has not point.

California has a lot of good, but it has just as many negatives as it does positives.

The actual unemployment rate including the illegals, some 7-9 million of them is rather dismal. They amount of aid given citizens is astronomical as well.

It would help if the people of California would quit electing the village idiots to send to Washington D.C.. They tend to send the wives of their rich white men to do the leadership role. That way their husbands can land lucrative federal contracts so they can abuse the tax payers.... in all the States.

Agriculturally they are a shadow of their former self, since the drought has taken the irrigation water in the North of the state, and gives it to the lower southern third of the state with no agriculture...

SO at best California is a very mixed bag.

Regards, Kirk

Ya, you couldn't pay me to move to California.

Besides, my gun is attached to my pants and my pants are attached to me. My gun isn't welcome in California (the magazines anways) so neither am I.

Not to mention govt's involvement in EVERYTHING. Have you simply watched the home flipping shows? Yeesh, no thanks.

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"The ultimate decision about what is accepted as right and wrong will be made not by individual human wisdom but by the disappearance of the groups that have adhered to the "wrong" beliefs."
-- F.A. Hayek

While California has it's beauty spots (Shelter Cove, The Redwoods) the taxation and regulation oppress any inhabitants that think outside the liberal box. Taxes and regulations out the whazoo.

My spouse's family is from Sacramento and Humbolt County. Out of 4 members, only one remains there down near SF, and once her spouse retires, they are gone. Best feature of California? Scoma's restaurant in SF.

Now, my adopted home state of Tennessee has just as many, if not more, beauty spots (Smoky Mountains, English Mountain, Clinch Mountains, lakes, forests and rolling ag fields) while permitting people to think for themselves, low taxes, and good employment rates.

You wouldn't last a month here, I'm sure, since you wouldn't have the government up your butt to tell you what to do.

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I never lose. I either win, or I learn....

Yep, for the couple of good things California has, the bad out weighs them. I'd live in just about any other state before I would move to a state that elects the likes of Boxer, and Pelosi time and again.

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Since California is the best state, I think that it should secede from the union as some have demanded, and then we can all watch it implode as its economy collapses under the weight of all its liberal programs.

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