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She said she was appalled by some of the things Trump has said but our country is in such turmoil and that she is Christian so it is part of her faith to forgive him.

This made me think about how people justify everything they do. Especially Christians. This woman is appalled by what Trump has said and that he mocked a handicapped man. But she apparently can't forgive Hillary for using a private server. Same Christian but Hillary is like the devil so she just can't forgive her.

Then the part about our country being in huge turmoil. WTF is she talking about. Now, this is a girl from a rich family in an Ivy League school being paid for by her parents. This is what gets me about the right. They see some huge turmoil that only they see. The main turmoil I see is politics and the divisions in our country down political lines. But what turmoil does this girl feel involved in? Not being completely satisfied with the country is a normal thing with both sides. We all have things we would like to see done better. But we are not in some massive turmoil that we haven't made the decision to put on ourselves.
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we are in chaos in our thinking because that is how some movers and shakers want it.
as for the girl's Christianity I stand with Mark Twain

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I know of 4 of my Democratic friends who whale on and on about how the Democratic party is a party of fools...

They think that immigration to this country is way out of hand. We don't have enough jobs for our own people, much less Millions of illegals.

They think that what ever has happened to the Democratic party, it has become something they do not recognize anymore.

All 4 of them are voting for Trump. They do not see a choice, especially since they know the Clintons are dirty dishonest people. They turned the White House into some kind of sex show...

So how are them apples?

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She said she was appalled by some of the things Trump has said but our country is in such turmoil and that she is Christian so it is part of her faith to forgive him.

This made me think about how people justify everything they do. Especially Christians. This woman is appalled by what Trump has said and that he mocked a handicapped man. But she apparently can't forgive Hillary for using a private server. Same Christian but Hillary is like the devil so she just can't forgive her.

Then the part about our country being in huge turmoil. WTF is she talking about. Now, this is a girl from a rich family in an Ivy League school being paid for by her parents. This is what gets me about the right. They see some huge turmoil that only they see. The main turmoil I see is politics and the divisions in our country down political lines. But what turmoil does this girl feel involved in? Not being completely satisfied with the country is a normal thing with both sides. We all have things we would like to see done better. But we are not in some massive turmoil that we haven't made the decision to put on ourselves.
I am not particularly religious, but have an understanding of forgiving somebody for a faux pas. Do not take that as me being a Trumper, far from it, I find the man crass and rude.

A spur of the moment stupidity is easier to forgive than a methodical, thought out plan of deviousness.

The turmoil is there, when select groups plan a temper tantrum of huge and dangerous proportions if they don't get their way. When certain groups promote divisiveness in their actions, and cover it with placatory words of unity.

That is what I see as the turmoil this country is in. Income inequity, white privilege, black oppression, racial inequality, all inflammatory words aimed at one specific group to oppress and make them feel guilty for being born as they are.

You must have a particularly good set of blinders, Mikeyy.
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The King of the Ignore List tells us about his imaginary friend as a platform for attacking Trump and Christianity. This shows the depravity of the Left.
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Most people I meet, R and D, concede that both candidates are very flawed. Unlike the young Republican prototype that is mentioned ( wealthy, ivy league, Christian), the serious young person considers many things, from different perspectives. The Christians I know, young and old, pray for our leaders realizing they are flawed and need guidance. I don't think things are as simple as Donald did this and HRC did that. There are people, young and old, that aren't aligned or loyal to any political party. Their views differ with both major party platforms.
To deny that there is turmoil takes effort. Locally, there was a recent riot in the nearby city of Charlotte.
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Take a look at Glenn Beck's program on The Blaze from last week. He had a conversation with millennials from TCU. Was enlightening.
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A spur of the moment stupidity is easier to forgive than a methodical, thought out plan of deviousness.
That's quotable...
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I am not particularly religious, but have an understanding of forgiving somebody for a faux pas. Do not take that as me being a Trumper, far from it, I find the man crass and rude.
A spur of the moment stupidity is easier to forgive than a methodical, thought out plan of deviousness.
The turmoil is there, when select groups plan a temper tantrum of huge and dangerous proportions if they don't get their way. When certain groups promote divisiveness in their actions, and cover it with placatory words of unity.
That is what I see as the turmoil this country is in. Income inequity, white privilege, black oppression, racial inequality, all inflammatory words aimed at one specific group to oppress and make them feel guilty for being born as they are.
You must have a particularly good set of blinders, Mikeyy.
SO pointing out a problem is somehow worse than the problem itself...
... because the people who are not actually a victim of the problem will feel bad about insinuations regarding the problem.
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SO pointing out a problem is somehow worse than the problem itself...
... because the people who are not actually a victim of the problem will feel bad about insinuations regarding the problem.
When one is blamed for something they do not do, did not do, and are held guilty because of an incident of their birth, well.... that goes in both directions, now doesn't it?

Why should those with lighter skin be made to feel guilty because they exist? If they are racist and act on it (not just in their mind) then by all means, hold them to their actions.

Why should people who have worked hard all their lives be told that they aren't worth what they've worked for, that they should feel guilty because someone else doesn't have the same things?

I refuse to carry someone else's burden. I treat all people who act like solid human beings as solid human beings. I will not carry someone else's guilt or jealousy.

The problem may exist, but only they can solve it. Making sure other people feel guilty because the problem exists will not fix it. Oh, woe is me..... and you are to blame!

No, I'm not.
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